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Most common SBF oil leaks - rear of engine

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#1 ·
While my trans is out getting 3rd gear fixed, time to solve an oil leak. Very slow drip, but leaves a spot after use. Rear of engine. First thing I checked was the intake gasket, it's dry and clean. Thinking oil pan.

Motor is a new build, just a year old, so doubting rear seal.

Where have your SBF real leaks been? Fixed how?

TIA, Dan
 
#3 ·
Believe it or not, valve cover gaskets. Had a leak that I thought was rear main seal, then oil pan, then intake manifold, but the valve cover gasket was seeping on the forward edge and making it all the way down to the bottom of the bell housing.
 
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#4 ·
I had 3 on my new BP 427. 2 were from the intake and valve cover on the passenger side. Took 4 rounds of torquing all the intake and valve cover bolts to get them snuged down and and the gaskets to set. They dried up nicely. The third and one I still need to fix is the rear oil pan. I put die in the oil and nailed it down to the back half moon seal between the pan and the block. BluePrint had me pull out the rear bolts and make sure the threaded holes were deep enough for the bolt length. They had some where the hole was too shallow and the bolts would bottom out and not put enough pressure one the rear seal. Wasn't the issue for me, unfortunately.

Good news is the oil pan can drop right out. Bad news is I need a gasket cutter to get it off. Project for a bit later this winter.

Steve
 
#6 ·
Oil pan leaks were and are the most common on SBF's. In my early years as a FORD mechanic, when doing engine work, that was what we fixed more than anything else.
That being said; we didn't use the newer one-piece gaskets available now-a-days back then . . . strictly cork and half-moon neoprene - and lots of gasket sealer.

Doc
 
#7 ·
Valve cover or rear of intake manifold.
 
#8 ·
In my case, it was the valve cover gasket.

Rear drivers side that ran down to the bell housing. Like others I thought it was rear main seal for a while and was relieved to find it was just the valve cover gasket.

George
 
#11 · (Edited)
Update so far:

Pulled the clutch and flywheel to look, happy I did. Flywheel could use a touch-up machine cut. Clutch disc is still OK. When the car is this far apart, why not just pull the clutch and flywheel.

Back of the motor is clean & dry. Valve covers good, Intake OK. I think Oil pan gasket the main culprit. Able to tighten all screws 1/4 to 1/3 turn. Did see seepage. In the back of the motor, added sealant to cover the rear oil pan gasket area from edge to edge, including the rear bearing cap/seal area.

Not sure if it's leaking, but some oil puddled at the rear seal. end of crank area. Normal? Maybe collected there? Too much oil in the pan?
 
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Update so far:

Pulled the clutch and flywheel to look, happy I did. Flywheel could use a touch-up machine cut. Clutch disc is still OK. When the car is this far apart, why not just pull the clutch and flywheel.

Back of the motor is clean & dry. Valve covers good, Intake OK. I think Oil pan gasket the main culprit. Able to tighten all screws 1/4 to 1/3 turn. Did see seepage. In the back of the motor, added sealant to cover the rear oil pan gasket area.

Not sure if it's leaking, but some oil puddled at the rear seal. end of crank area. Normal? Maybe collected there? Too much oil in the pan?
Have you changed oil lately from conventional to synthetic ?
 
#14 ·
Yes, went to synthetic.

How would that affect?
 
#18 ·
"I haven't heard you mention sealing the flywheel bolts. They are not a blind hole."

Did not have sealer on when removed, and will seal when putting on the flywheel. I was wondering, as I know the rear threaded holes connect to the crank oil passage. But, back of flywheel was not coated with oil.
 
#19 ·
If it is a rear main seal or a flywheel bolt leak you would have oil on the flywheel. Since this is not the case, there are 3 possibilities. As already suggested, oil leaking from anywhere else. I have seen a timing cover seal leak cause a drip at the back of the engine.
The oil pan corners around the main bearing caps are another. (already mentioned by Doc)
The last is the spot mentioned by Craig. The rear main cap has to have sealer between it and the block. Synthetic oil will definitely leak through there without sealant.


HTH
Norm
 
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#20 ·
Don't forget the mechanical fuel pump cover. I had a leak there that was very difficult to find.

My favorite way to find a leak is with a smoke machine. It's pumps an oil based smoke into the crank case, usually through the dipstick tube. Where the smoke leaks out is where the oil leaks out.
 
#22 ·
Putting it back together, discovered oil from the front area of the motor on frame and lower engine, so maybe a leak up front? I do have an oil cooler down by the radiator lower area with some oil seepage, so that could be a culprit. Will re-do and seal connections.
 
#26 ·
I have been using permatex high tack sealant for a number of years. It is hard for me to install something without putting some on the gasket. Oil leaks suck, especially on a new motor.