When I turn the key to start, the motor seems to be locked up and the motor ground fries. I removed all the spark plugs and I got the motor to turn over until the battery went dead. I tried to turn the crank with a wrench at the pully but it is locked up. The motor is out of a donor and I did not here it run. I need help on where to look next. It acted like there was water in the cylinder but they were o.k. When it did turn over, it rolled smooth. I stopped it and then could not get it to turn over again. Thanks in advance for the help jack stand.
Motor stuck when trying to start
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Jack,
The only thing to do is remove the timing chain, and see if the crank will turn on its own. If it doesn’t, there is somewhere, one bearing frozen. If the crank turns, then see if the cam will turn. It has to be in the rotating assembly somewhere. I know two guys, that if we didn't live so far away would be knocking on your door to help.
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Just to let you know, we have built a lot of racing engines, they have on occasion, after a long season of wear and tear, with no blatant sign( high metal content in oil), decided to spin a bearing. So it has and can happen in a high mileage engine, but it is a very rare occasion. The only other thing that comes to mind is a broken ring. But doing the above test would eventually lead to that if it is the case.
[ June 13, 2003, 12:07 AM: Message edited by: hankl ]
The only thing to do is remove the timing chain, and see if the crank will turn on its own. If it doesn’t, there is somewhere, one bearing frozen. If the crank turns, then see if the cam will turn. It has to be in the rotating assembly somewhere. I know two guys, that if we didn't live so far away would be knocking on your door to help.
[ June 13, 2003, 12:07 AM: Message edited by: hankl ]
Ray,2723 and Will,2724 came by and looked, ate pizza and a Dew, and told me what a loser I was to just put the other motor in it . We all were supposed to have the car done for the Amercan Graffiti in Modesto Saturday. Jeff, soon to order his car this week, was here and they all decide that I will know what the problem is when we take the motor out and put it on the stand. In the meantime, I'm going to get the other one ready and ray is going to help me install #2 on monday. Will is going to help with the body on Wednes and Jeff, my racecar buddy, will help too. Thanks for the offerings. I have met so many great people on this forum and the only down side is that many are to far away to visit. Saturday I will just take the wife's car (3025)to Motown and cruise. We do go to Santa Cruz often and will have to look you up.I'll keep everyone posted On Sunday as to what went wrong with the locked up motor. Jack stand
Jackstand:
Did you have your flywheel off or change from an auto to manual tranny? If you didn't find gold in your oil pan go look at the bolts you used fasten the flywheel to the crankshaft. It is very common pratice to install flywheel bolts that are to long and cause this problem. If the brg. were the problem you would have seen heat or a burn look on the crank.But not to turn at all ,you have some frozen pistons or the old bolt problem.Hope its bolts
Did you have your flywheel off or change from an auto to manual tranny? If you didn't find gold in your oil pan go look at the bolts you used fasten the flywheel to the crankshaft. It is very common pratice to install flywheel bolts that are to long and cause this problem. If the brg. were the problem you would have seen heat or a burn look on the crank.But not to turn at all ,you have some frozen pistons or the old bolt problem.Hope its bolts
the flywheel is the same one that came off the motor and the bolts are the same, however I did double check this. We are pulling this POS out tonight and checking it out. I have another moter we are putting in. Overall visual on this motor is good and that's why I just can't see anything obvious. A neighbor down the the sreet has blown up about 200 of these ford blocks( circle track fords for about 40 years) and we tried a couple of his tricks and ideas to no avail. After it comes out tonoght I'll post the results. After all the advice here, all that is left in the car is heads and block, chain is off, fly wheel off, dist. out, and still the crank will not forward our backward. See ya tonight with the news. Jack stand
Hankl
The show in modesto was pretty good. It seems that ray 3723and my wife's 3025 drew alot of attention through the day. Both builds are different and parked side by side was interesting to see peoples reaction and comment. Overall, most of the poeple knew about factory fives and wanted to know more. Ran into abou a dozen with unfinished cars in the area. There was one other ffr that was really nice and did win an award and we were parked next to him on Sat. I did notice that the amount of money he vested and the upgrade bsic build we displyed, well people looked at the other but spent more time talking to us about the cars. It seemed to me the basic build on the most part is more attainable to the passer by and leaves with the idea that they could in fact afford and build one too. thanks richard
The show in modesto was pretty good. It seems that ray 3723and my wife's 3025 drew alot of attention through the day. Both builds are different and parked side by side was interesting to see peoples reaction and comment. Overall, most of the poeple knew about factory fives and wanted to know more. Ran into abou a dozen with unfinished cars in the area. There was one other ffr that was really nice and did win an award and we were parked next to him on Sat. I did notice that the amount of money he vested and the upgrade bsic build we displyed, well people looked at the other but spent more time talking to us about the cars. It seemed to me the basic build on the most part is more attainable to the passer by and leaves with the idea that they could in fact afford and build one too. thanks richard
News flash!!!!!!!!!!!
We have a winner..........
We removed the motor and then removed the heads. There was one cilinder that somewhere had got a little moisture in it and appeared to make it stick---and it wasn't much. Don Vought from Manteca just happened to come by and pitched in and got the job done. The overall motor and inerds are in very good condition. Its going back toghether tommarow. A little emery cloth and ATF and looks terrific.
DOUG1 is the winner!! thanks alot guys Without all your help I wouldn't have taken this far on my own and then end up with a rebuild that was not necessay. Thanks again guys! Richard Migliori
We have a winner..........
We removed the motor and then removed the heads. There was one cilinder that somewhere had got a little moisture in it and appeared to make it stick---and it wasn't much. Don Vought from Manteca just happened to come by and pitched in and got the job done. The overall motor and inerds are in very good condition. Its going back toghether tommarow. A little emery cloth and ATF and looks terrific.
DOUG1 is the winner!! thanks alot guys Without all your help I wouldn't have taken this far on my own and then end up with a rebuild that was not necessay. Thanks again guys! Richard Migliori
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