Ok I'm considering a candy and I'd love some feedback from those with candy cobra's. Pros and cons, how long have you been on the road, is the paint peppered with chips, have you had to make touchups, would you consider a candy again, how often do you drive the car? Every pro painter I speak with tells me that it's not a good idea because of problems w/touch ups. But I just LOVE the look! Should I expect to have the car painted after 5 years or so anyway? I met a guy at the car show with a beautiful candy bomb, and told me to staying off the expressway is his secret to keeping chips to a minimum. Please share your experiences. TIA
Candy Paint On A Cobra
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Hello Gearhead!
I would definitely do a Kandy on my Roadster again. I have some stone chips and other dings that have developed and have not bothered to touch up most of them. I did have some paint left over from the initial shooting to use for touchups and that has worked out just fine. I can see them and point them out to you (but you have to look hard) or I can guide you to a point when we're talking that you can't see any flaws! In my opinion unless you spend a lot of time touching up a 2 stage paint it still looks like it was touched up. I built the car to drive (4400 miles this summer) and the stone chips on the front and the rear fenders are just part of it. And I don't avoid the freeways, where else can I travel for short periods of time at politically incorrect speeds? I will probably repaint the car in the future just to change the color to something else.
By the way, if you want to bring your car Eastward to be painted, my friend has just started to take on other Roadsters to paint.
I would definitely do a Kandy on my Roadster again. I have some stone chips and other dings that have developed and have not bothered to touch up most of them. I did have some paint left over from the initial shooting to use for touchups and that has worked out just fine. I can see them and point them out to you (but you have to look hard) or I can guide you to a point when we're talking that you can't see any flaws! In my opinion unless you spend a lot of time touching up a 2 stage paint it still looks like it was touched up. I built the car to drive (4400 miles this summer) and the stone chips on the front and the rear fenders are just part of it. And I don't avoid the freeways, where else can I travel for short periods of time at politically incorrect speeds? I will probably repaint the car in the future just to change the color to something else.
By the way, if you want to bring your car Eastward to be painted, my friend has just started to take on other Roadsters to paint.
Melchinoff,
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Olli
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Actually, having been a painter in a former life, I can say that there are certain colors that are much like a candy as far as touch ups go. Specifically, they are the silvers, golds, and other metal colored metalics. Because they have such a small amount of pigment, they are subject to flip flop and other problems related to how the flakes lay down, how deep they are in the paint, etc, which all change the tone.
Essentially, if you have a problem with these colors, or a candy, the best fix is a total paint job or at a minimum, the entire top, or side blended into the adjacent top or side along a body curve. For a painter, it is not all that big of a deal but unlike myself, these guys arn't shy to charge these days! Heck, I used to repair major rust on a car and do a color change for $600! Of course, that was 30 years ago and I was starving.
Cheers,
Jerry
Essentially, if you have a problem with these colors, or a candy, the best fix is a total paint job or at a minimum, the entire top, or side blended into the adjacent top or side along a body curve. For a painter, it is not all that big of a deal but unlike myself, these guys arn't shy to charge these days! Heck, I used to repair major rust on a car and do a color change for $600! Of course, that was 30 years ago and I was starving.
Cheers,
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Gearhead,
In the second picture of the candy cobra that you posted (the WCCC one), did you notice that he has candy ghost flames on the scoop (if you have any other pics of the hood area). It doesn't show in that pic. But I know whos car that is. That color is awsome in real life. You can't go wrong.
Of course, you should know that if you go with a shade of blue your car will be faster by default (blue car owners secret).
In the second picture of the candy cobra that you posted (the WCCC one), did you notice that he has candy ghost flames on the scoop (if you have any other pics of the hood area). It doesn't show in that pic. But I know whos car that is. That color is awsome in real life. You can't go wrong.
Of course, you should know that if you go with a shade of blue your car will be faster by default (blue car owners secret).
Gearhead,
I as well have wanted a Brandywine over silver base since I started my build. The discussions about the true candy has me rethinking the whole idea. I will be painting the car myself which is part of it, the other is horror stories about how finicky the HOK paint is to work with.
I was at a car show a weekend ago and saw a couple of colors that you might want to check out. Both were very nice with a good metalic and candy-like depth.
'08 Lexus - Matador red mica
'08 Buick - Red jewel tintcoat
I'm leaning toward the Lexus color, has anybody used this color on a Cobra yet?
Brian
I as well have wanted a Brandywine over silver base since I started my build. The discussions about the true candy has me rethinking the whole idea. I will be painting the car myself which is part of it, the other is horror stories about how finicky the HOK paint is to work with.
I was at a car show a weekend ago and saw a couple of colors that you might want to check out. Both were very nice with a good metalic and candy-like depth.
'08 Lexus - Matador red mica
'08 Buick - Red jewel tintcoat
I'm leaning toward the Lexus color, has anybody used this color on a Cobra yet?
Brian
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those were some fine rides!!
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If your main concern is ease of touch ups, I agree with hindsight and Mike_C above on using the HOK Kandy Basecoat system.
House of Kolor has two types of candy paints. One is the traditional 3-stage using a metallic basecoat, the transparent candy midcoats and then the clearcoat.
The other is their Kandy Basecoat paints, which are basically a 2-stage base coat/clear coat paint system, except in this case the base coat is a combination of the transparent tinted Kandy color, metallics and pearls all mixed together in one paint, then it is covered with their very durable catalyzed polyurethane clear.
It looks nearly the same as the 3-stage candys and it's just as durable as any other paint.
By the way, it comes in Brandywine, too!
Steve
House of Kolor has two types of candy paints. One is the traditional 3-stage using a metallic basecoat, the transparent candy midcoats and then the clearcoat.
The other is their Kandy Basecoat paints, which are basically a 2-stage base coat/clear coat paint system, except in this case the base coat is a combination of the transparent tinted Kandy color, metallics and pearls all mixed together in one paint, then it is covered with their very durable catalyzed polyurethane clear.
It looks nearly the same as the 3-stage candys and it's just as durable as any other paint.
By the way, it comes in Brandywine, too!
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My car isn't a "kandy", but it's a tri-stage HOK pearl. I hear professional painters poo-pooing the HOK stuff all the time, but I was very happy with it. They all tell you to stay away from it because it's so finiky. I followed their tech manual to a T and had great results.
I've not had to touch up my car yet, but in the paint booth I wiped 4 coats off the nose with my paint suit (few swear words were mumbled) on accident. It was my final coat and I reached way over the nose to reach the inside edge of the headlight area when the paint suit wiped the mid-coat off down to the base coat! I was able to repair the spot perfectly and cannot tell even when looking hard. However that was in the paint booth at the same time the rest of the car was being painted...
I also painted the inside of the doors on a different day and they came out slightly darker than the outside of the car. So I can see that a touch up later could be difficult...
-Mike
I've not had to touch up my car yet, but in the paint booth I wiped 4 coats off the nose with my paint suit (few swear words were mumbled) on accident. It was my final coat and I reached way over the nose to reach the inside edge of the headlight area when the paint suit wiped the mid-coat off down to the base coat! I was able to repair the spot perfectly and cannot tell even when looking hard. However that was in the paint booth at the same time the rest of the car was being painted...
I also painted the inside of the doors on a different day and they came out slightly darker than the outside of the car. So I can see that a touch up later could be difficult...
-Mike
Thanks for the replies everyone!
Cobra Tom, now that's the kind of reply that I had hoped to hear. I don't mind getting the car painted again down the road a bit either. I just didn't want to make it an annual event. :0)
Steno!!! Hey buddy. As you see I'm trying to get out there on the road with you this spring. Oh, and Kelly's FFR took Best of Class at the World of Wheels and beat out an original 289 FIA and that continuation series Shelby Cobra. He did an awesome job and the WCCC as well as Factory Five Racing should be very proud.
Jerry, thanks for helping me understand this stuff.
cdamsch, the third picture is the WCCC member with the 532 stroker motor. Great story behind his paint job (as Steno added).
blinn, Last year at the Chicago Auto Show my wife and I saw the perfect color on a Lexus. We got the paint chart from the guys showing the car and went to the dealership the following day. We rushed into the showroom at the dealership to ask if they had a car in Matador Red, just to be told that we just walked past one! It looked totally different out in the sun than it did indoors at the show. Decided to look elsewhere. I'll look into the red jewel though. Thanks
Sam, I'm pretty much stuck with some sort of burgundy, as I have a LOT of burgundy powdercoated parts already. Doing anything other than burgundy or gold really would'nt work for my setup. I made a decision long ago that the car would be burgundy and gold and I've stuck to my guns. So basically I'm picking which burgundy at this point.
Mike C & Porxter, that's great info and I'll look into this setup for sure. I wonder if my painter has sprayed this stuff or has any info on it. Where's Da Bat when you need him? Damn crime fighters never around when you need them. :0)
Here are a few more images from the 2007 LCS. I love the ghost stripes on the first one as well as the color. His was a candy brandywine (with something added in) while the second car is a candy apple red. These were my personal color favorites at the LCS.
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Cobra Tom, now that's the kind of reply that I had hoped to hear. I don't mind getting the car painted again down the road a bit either. I just didn't want to make it an annual event. :0)
Steno!!! Hey buddy. As you see I'm trying to get out there on the road with you this spring. Oh, and Kelly's FFR took Best of Class at the World of Wheels and beat out an original 289 FIA and that continuation series Shelby Cobra. He did an awesome job and the WCCC as well as Factory Five Racing should be very proud.
Jerry, thanks for helping me understand this stuff.
cdamsch, the third picture is the WCCC member with the 532 stroker motor. Great story behind his paint job (as Steno added).
blinn, Last year at the Chicago Auto Show my wife and I saw the perfect color on a Lexus. We got the paint chart from the guys showing the car and went to the dealership the following day. We rushed into the showroom at the dealership to ask if they had a car in Matador Red, just to be told that we just walked past one! It looked totally different out in the sun than it did indoors at the show. Decided to look elsewhere. I'll look into the red jewel though. Thanks
Sam, I'm pretty much stuck with some sort of burgundy, as I have a LOT of burgundy powdercoated parts already. Doing anything other than burgundy or gold really would'nt work for my setup. I made a decision long ago that the car would be burgundy and gold and I've stuck to my guns. So basically I'm picking which burgundy at this point.
Mike C & Porxter, that's great info and I'll look into this setup for sure. I wonder if my painter has sprayed this stuff or has any info on it. Where's Da Bat when you need him? Damn crime fighters never around when you need them. :0)
Here are a few more images from the 2007 LCS. I love the ghost stripes on the first one as well as the color. His was a candy brandywine (with something added in) while the second car is a candy apple red. These were my personal color favorites at the LCS.
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