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I like the looks...I like the Chevy/Ford powerplant choice. I like the room for giant rubber. I don't like the Audi transaxle part. The price for that unit could cause alot of builders a problem.
 

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Hope I don't catch too much flack for this, but I'm not real impressed. It's certainly pretty cool and I'm sure the finnished product will be sweet, but I'm really more impressed with the Ultima Can-Am. That's a pretty hard act to follow.

Having said that I'll be watching very closely as the car gets closer to production, but I think my next project will be the Ultima car.
Please don't crucify me, but the shape at the rear of the body kinda sucks. Maybe that will change? :(

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I use the Audi gear box in our GT-40's. It works great and I can find them all day long for $300-$500.

[ June 20, 2002, 07:12 PM: Message edited by: Gordon Levy ]
 

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Just in case Ford is listening I never said this but looks to me like it's made to compete to the otherwise GT-40 crowd and not the Ultima. Yes I like the Ultima just as much so it would be a hard decision if it presented itself.
As for the Audi Transaxle, Are they beefy enough to handle the torque and horse power? I have been told by a number of people that the Jag IRS is great for handling, nice ride but can't handle any real torque/HP.I would imagine the Audi is the same isn't it????
 

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The Ultima Can-am does not look like a car I'd want to take on the street. The GTM-200 does look very street friendly however.
 

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Very good point Loyd. I was thinking the same thing. I'm also not too fond of the rear. But then again, I don't care for the rear of the coupes either ;) . The front shares major styling cues from the Porsche 996 GT1, which is a definite plus. Gordon, what kind of hp and torque can you put through one of those Audi transaxles before reliability becomes an issue? Do they need coolers?
 

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Looks like a great start, at the price being tossed around it would be an interesting alternative to the Ultima or GT40, I to hope they take there time on body fit and finish. My question is, how do you think you would title and insure it?

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Overall i think its a good alternative to a GT-40, its great to see gordon mention the transaxle only goes for 3-500. My thoughts are this, i get bored of cars and turn them over regularly, if i build a cobra or a daytona or a GT-40 and i need or would like to sell it i can probably get out of it what i have into it because those cars are recognizeable because of their history. If i build the GTM, sink 40k into it and decide to try to sell it im gonna have a hard time. The car has no history, no following other than the small amount of FFR and cobra people in the business. I dont think id get myself in that position. People will pay good money for a GT-40, Daytona, or Cobra, will they ante up for a FFR GTM? as mentioned above, body quality would be key. Id probably be turned off by the mass of people asking me about my rebodied Fiero. (i dont think it looks like one but i can hear the questions already). Id probably call gordon about a GT-40 before i built the GTM.

[ June 21, 2002, 07:02 AM: Message edited by: Mort ]
 

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Every automaker has an Edsel waiting to happen. With all due respect to the Smith brothers I'd say this may well be their Edsel. Here are the reasons I believe make the FFR Roadster a success:

* the history behind it
* the looks and classic lines
* the fun of a CONVERTIBLE
* the single donor concept
* the Cobra fellowship
* the $20K price tag (stock builds)
* the car is easy to build and parts are easy to source.
* the car is FUN to drive
* the car is easy to tune and upgrade with Fox parts

The new model has none of the characteristics I listed but that does not mean the new model won't have some following.

What I do know is that it will never see the numbers the Roadster has because it has no appeal for folks like me that have a limited budget and want an easy-to-build kit of a timeless replica of famous roadster.

The car, I believe, will only appeal to serious gearheads with $40~50 Gs in their pocket.

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There may be a few more guys out here like me. I bought the Roadster more for it's price/performance point than the Cobra history. The new car, once sorted out, looks like a great project. I'm thinking hard about it. Of course it would take me 5 years to build but that's just more time to spread the expense over.
 

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The reasons why I got a cobra kit.

1) I can't afford a new production sports car

2) I've always loved the lines of the cobra

3) It's a bonus that this car is very fast from 0 to 180

4) I knew I could get some help building the cobra from all the guys who already built them.

This new kit is a little too much $$$ for me.

It goes 200 mph but I'll never go more than 150.

New kit, There isn't going to be as many people to help the mechanically challenged like me.

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FFR HEAL THYSELF!!!!
This car looks good, but looks way too much like that French Supercar to be a hard thought out original design. Nonetheless, I feel that FFR should commit themselves to improving their existing 2 cars, and customer relations, which they claim to be doing
. The body on the cobra should be priority #1 as it is the car that put them on the map. Don't get me wrong, FFR should be commended for what they have brought to market. I wouldn't be able to build my dream without their vision and hard work. It just seems that alot of excellent engineering went into the cobra chassis, but the body seems like an unimportant afterthought. This is a tragedy for both the customer and FFR. The customer is wrought with concern over how to finish the body and make it look acceptable. To prospective future customers and the naysayers, it looks like FFR isn't concerned with quality. You have to admit that even satisfied customers see that body for the first time and want to cringe with tears in their eyes. A little quality control on the fiberglass side of things would go a long way to brighten the image of FFR. Any well engineered product is not absolute, and will require continual quality improvement. I know that FFR is a progressive company, and strives to deliver the best product for the money out there. I'm just asking that they maintain their focus and finish what they started, before they feel the need to expand their portfolio. Please do not take offense to my thoughts here, I just feel that you can be a "Jack of All Trades", or you can do what you do the "BEST" and to the fullest extent of your abilities. This is best achieved through specialization. Get it absolutely right and then move on. Once again I say "FFR HEAL THYSELF"

Yours in optimism on a bright FFR future :D

Jeff E.

[ June 23, 2002, 11:12 PM: Message edited by: J-MAN ]
 
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