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*Update* Starting bodywork. Need advice, please help!. See post #155.

Hello everyone! Long time lurker on the forum, finally have started my own build. The car is a Factory Five 33 Hot Rod kit which will be powered by a GM LS1,T56 transmission, and Ford 8.8 three link rear end. Here is a video describing the details of the project and I will be vlogging the entire build of the car. Please subscribe to the Youtube channel to see the build progress. There is also pictures of the build on my Instagram @dizzymarcus. I will also be posting the new videos here. Let me know what you think, thanks!


 

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Sorry, not working for me either - Chrome browser FWIW.
It's probably my phone. I'll try it again tonight on the computer. Really just lurking here. Still trying to convince the wife we need a 33
I think I have it properly embedded now. It shows up for me when I use Chrome and Safari. Let me know if its working for you? Thanks!
 

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great job hosers! subscribed ! - but I suspect there will be some here that may not appreciate your colorful commentary........:beerchug::beerchug::beerchug::
 

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Working great with IE, will try later with Chrome browser. Great videos! Glad to see mine is not the only build with a profane running commentary.
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With a powder coated chassis, I'd think that most builders would only put the car together once, but I see rusted and bare metal parts being installed, that will later have to be removed for paint or powder coat.

I built my '37 Oze twice. The first time with no paint anywhere, just to test the car, since it came with plenty of suspension problems. Not everything was operational, but it was tagged and titled. After 1200 miles of testing driving, I finished the extensive body work, then tore the whole thing down for paint and reassembly. That last phase took about 1500 hours.
 

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Working great with IE, will try later with Chrome browser. Great videos! Glad to see mine is not the only build with a profane running commentary.
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Thanks!

With a powder coated chassis, I'd think that most builders would only put the car together once, but I see rusted and bare metal parts being installed, that will later have to be removed for paint or powder coat.

I built my '37 Oze twice. The first time with no paint anywhere, just to test the car, since it came with plenty of suspension problems. Not everything was operational, but it was tagged and titled. After 1200 miles of testing driving, I finished the extensive body work, then tore the whole thing down for paint and reassembly. That last phase took about 1500 hours.
Yes the car will be getting taken apart to paint and powder coat a bunch of things before final assembly. In hindsight getting the frame powder coated at the factory was a mistake. You'll see in a future video why. I am going to have to re-powdercoat the frame haha.
 

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Certainly applaud your efforts on the video. I would however, caution builders watching the series to keep in mind that you really need to search different build pages and ready as many posts as you can before you start. There are many, many facets of the build that are not totally correct or not adequately covered in the manual. You can build the car using the manual but you WILL run into problems and the end result will not be as high a quality build that it could be avoiding various steps in the manual.

As an example, the firewall passenger footbox can be ever so slightly modified to avoid grinding a bunch of material off the upper firewall, passenger side, to get the body to fit correctly.

I hope I'm not offending anyone, but I build and supply custom parts for this car and get calls monthly for orders and those that have been here for awhile know they can call 24/7 and get help with their build or just BS about their build. Having said that, some builders have more experience than others and I get many calls monthly from those less experienced asking questions. I am more than happy to do so but mention this because the conversation always leads to areas of the build that are either lacking or simply not totally correct in the manual. Interestingly, the conversations usually follow the same outline because many problems are common to every build and not covered in the manual.

I'm simply saying if you build per the manual your car will have errors built into it that can be avoided with some research. That said, your efforts are appreciated. Videos that enhance the manual such as Erik Hansens Door fit videos are extremely helpful to new builders. At the end of the day, we are all in this together and just want our cars completed and completed to the highest level we can achieve.

Again, I mean no harm or disrespect.

Tim Whittaker
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Certainly applaud your efforts on the video. I would however, caution builders watching the series to keep in mind that you really need to search different build pages and ready as many posts as you can before you start. There are many, many facets of the build that are not totally correct or not adequately covered in the manual. You can build the car using the manual but you WILL run into problems and the end result will not be as high a quality build that it could be avoiding various steps in the manual.

As an example, the firewall passenger footbox can be ever so slightly modified to avoid grinding a bunch of material off the upper firewall, passenger side, to get the body to fit correctly.

I hope I'm not offending anyone, but I build and supply custom parts for this car and get calls monthly for orders and those that have been here for awhile know they can call 24/7 and get help with their build or just BS about their build. Having said that, some builders have more experience than others and I get many calls monthly from those less experienced asking questions. I am more than happy to do so but mention this because the conversation always leads to areas of the build that are either lacking or simply not totally correct in the manual. Interestingly, the conversations usually follow the same outline because many problems are common to every build and not covered in the manual.

I'm simply saying if you build per the manual your car will have errors built into it that can be avoided with some research. That said, your efforts are appreciated. Videos that enhance the manual such as Erik Hansens Door fit videos are extremely helpful to new builders. At the end of the day, we are all in this together and just want our cars completed and completed to the highest level we can achieve.

Again, I mean no harm or disrespect.

Tim Whittaker
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Thanks for the input. Yes these videos are more just a general guide of the build process. There are countless hours of research, testing, trial and error that the videos do not include for entertainment purposes. These videos should just be one small element of the research process before attempting a build like this.
 

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The thing about it is that you can go back and edit as you go too.

I have built several airplanes and there are people out there doing the same in that arena as well. It is a real good tool for the first time builder. Erik Hansons videos have help many, many builders and it's appreciated by everyone.

At the end of the day, I hope you end up with something similar for the basic build. I know the guys will appreciate yours as well.

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Certainly applaud your efforts on the video. I would however, caution builders watching the series to keep in mind that you really need to search different build pages and ready as many posts as you can before you start. There are many, many facets of the build that are not totally correct or not adequately covered in the manual.

As an example, the firewall passenger footbox can be ever so slightly modified to avoid grinding a bunch of material off the upper firewall, passenger side, to get the body to fit correctly.



Thank you Tim for this timely post. Can I say that if that mod. is not made to the passenger footbox, and instead the builder grinds a bunch of material off the upper firewall, the body will, as a consequence of that never fit correctly. The laser cut firewall sets the correct height for the f/glass cowl and notching the footbox allows the body to be lifted up to sit on top of the firewall and thus be symmetrically in line with the driver's side. Otherwise it will always droop to the passenger side.
 

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thanks Barrel. I believe you were one of the first to follow the advice on my post back in 2010 or something like that. I have tried to relate all similar issues to builders when they call to order or just BS about their build. that one simple fix corrects several issues with the firewall and the side to side leveling of the body.

A dozen or so issues that all will face are not covered in the manual. Hell, FFR won't even admit to most of them and will suggest not doing what Barrel outlined above. The beauty of the FFR is that you have a blank canvas to start with but the kit does have a number of areas that need improvement. Unfortunately, it is left to the builder to sort out.

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thanks Barrel. I believe you were one of the first to follow the advice on my post back in 2010 or something like that. I have tried to relate all similar issues to builders when they call to order or just BS about their build. that one simple fix corrects several issues with the firewall and the side to side leveling of the body.

A dozen or so issues that all will face are not covered in the manual. Hell, FFR won't even admit to most of them and will suggest not doing what Barrel outlined above. The beauty of the FFR is that you have a blank canvas to start with but the kit does have a number of areas that need improvement. Unfortunately, it is left to the builder to sort out.

Tim Whittaker
I am confused what modification you are suggesting. Do you have a link to your original post or more info?
 
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