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10-13-2019 03:52 AM
IsaacW Great work, you deserve to be proud of it.


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10-13-2019 12:51 AM
shark92651
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Originally Posted by railroad View Post
Enjoying the pics and progress.
Need to find a tag bracket to cover those sharp edges.
Looking good.
Yeah, I am actually debating if I should buy one of the new 25th Anniversary trunks before paint and just reverse this whole Kleiner mod and then I could use pretty much any license plate frame.
10-12-2019 09:48 PM
railroad Enjoying the pics and progress.
Need to find a tag bracket to cover those sharp edges.
Looking good.
10-12-2019 08:46 PM
shark92651
Fully titled and registered

Earlier in the week I received my Texas title in the mail and on Friday I received my plates. It's fully titled and registered now!



Today I did my first "field test" of the 3.5" poker table cup holders. I'm happy to report they hold a Chick-Fil-A medium soft drink with straw and a Mac-N-Cheese with no issues. The cup did tilt under heavy acceleration but it didn't fall over.



I also did another data logging session for Lund. This time they asked for a WOT from 2500 - 7200! It took a couple loops around the service road to finally get on it without any traffic (especially cops) and I hit about 80+ in 2nd gear, that was fun.

I parked it on the street near my house and took this photo today. I can't stop looking at this thing

10-07-2019 03:40 PM
railroad Nicely done, on all your work.
I am looking forward to getting there.
I think I am ready to set the body on the chassis.
I have done some short go cart trips, cannot risk the traffic on the main road.
Looking forward to your impressions with the Lund tune.
I have used him on 2 cars and very happy with the results.
Also, need to get with Mike on the foot pedals.
10-06-2019 07:11 PM
shark92651
Fire extinguisher

I picked up a small H3R Hal Guard fire extinguisher and a billet bracket from Eddit Motorsports. The bracket is quite a bit cheaper than the one from H3R and I like the look of it. It is advertised as for 2.75" cylinders and the small H3R is 2.6". I bought it anyway as I figured I could use a wrap or two of electrical tape or a piece of rubber to fill the gap. In the end, it clamps down tight on the cylinder without doing anything so that was a nice surprise. I mounted it on the rear wall above the U-Joint cover. At first I thought I could get the bracket to fit on top of the rectangular frame tube at that spot and just drill/tap all four corners. The bottom holes were drilling into the edges of the tube, so I had to bring it down a bit, and used rivnuts through the aluminum at the bottom, and tapped the top holes for 10-32 screws. I just filled the extra holes I drilled with some JB Weld and it will all get covered up with carpet anyway.



Other that installing the fire extinguisher, not much to do at all on the car until after paint. I did receive an updated tune file from Lund. After loading the new tune, I was asked to add a WOT from 2500 to 5000 rpm in my next data logging session. I did that this morning and sent the file back to Lund. I suspect we are really close to the full WOT dyno test, probably after the next tune update I expect to get back on Monday.

It's fall but here in Texas it's still in the mid-90's. It is supposed to drop to the 60's by next Friday. Can we at least get a couple weeks of actual fall weather before winter arrives, please? I want to drive the car without sweating!
09-30-2019 08:09 PM
shark92651
Lund Racing custom tune

A couple weeks ago I ordered an nGauge unit and custom tune from Lund Racing. Several people on the forums have recommended them so I felt it was a good choice. I'm optimistic that the custom tune will optimize the engine performance and I will feel it was worth the investment. I am about 1/2 way done with the turning process at this point. The Lund tuner asked me a few questions as to parts in my build (air intake, exhaust, fuel pump size) and asked for a photo of my intake. He asked me about a "PATS delete" and I had to Google that. I think is an anti-theft system but I don't know if that is even present in the crate motor and control pack. He then asked me about if I "locked the IMRC open", again I had to go to Google. I believe that has to do with the CMVC system and I told him it was plumbed as normal but I have no idea if/how it functions on the crate motor. He asked me to perform a "read vehicle" function and send him the file. He then informed me that it looks like the IMRC is "locked open" with the stock tune, I have no idea if that is correct or not but I'll trust his knowledge on this. He also sent me a base tune which I flashed to the PCM. I then performed the requested data logging at idle, holding engine at various RPM, and then performing slow RPM climbs on the street and sent the data logs over the weekend. This morning, they send me an "R2" tune which I have loaded. They now want me to perform the same data logging as before but add in a WOT from 2,500 to 5,000 RPM and then send the logs again. I will keep you posted as to my results. So far I must say I am impressed with their quick turn around and customer service.


09-30-2019 07:53 PM
shark92651
Forte AC Cobra pedals

The stock Wilwood pedal pads weren't really working out for me and I wanted a bit more room to reach my dead pedal. After seeing what others had done I decided I wasn't crazy about the look after cutting them down so I decided to order the bolt on AC Cobra pedals from Mike Forte. The pedals are a little too thick for the rubber inserts to hold properly in place so I used a couple drops of super glue under each one and attached the center cover with a bit of leftover silicon caulk. I like the look and feel of these pedals, they are quality parts.

09-26-2019 01:03 PM
shark92651
Title, registration, and tags

This past Monday I took all my paperwork to the county tax office and got everything submitted to get my title, registration, and tags. I did all my homework up front so was able to get out of there in about 20 minutes with my registration sticker and 60 day temp paper tags. They said I should expect to receive my title and permanent license plate in about 3-4 weeks.

I also finished up my "Kleiner modded" license plate holder. I found that I needed just a bit more room to get the plate to fit without touching the trunk latch so I removed everything and cut a couple notches in the bottom of the "bridge" that holds the lights to allow the plates to slip all the way up into the holder. I also opened up the mounting holes in the trunk just a bit so that I could bring the entire unit up just a bit and that allows it to fit so I shouldn't have to modify the plate itself at all. For a plate mount I purchased an inexpensive license plate blank on Amazon and modified it to fit. I cut a notch in the top to clear the light housing and secured it to the license plate holder with some #10 flathead screws cut down to about 1/4" length so that they will not touch the trunk. I also drilled some access holes in it so that the entire unit can be easily removed from the trunk without removing the plate mount.

09-21-2019 11:13 PM
shark92651
First highway miles

This morning I took a short road trip, about 50 miles in total, to go get a weight certification. It was the first time I've had her up to highway speeds, around 80 most of the way and it was a blast. It was a good opportunity to shake things out, and quite literally I did shake something loose - one of the nuts on the driver's side door hinge came loose and fell off - guess I forgot to tighten that one. Otherwise it was pretty uneventful, but a blast to drive! I like my choice of the .64 5th gear as it cruises right along at 80 mph at 2500 rpm.

The car weighs in at 2360 with a full tank of gas and is pretty well balanced. I have all my paperwork in order and will go to the tax office next week to hopefully get title, registration, and tags.




I took a couple more photos in the driveway when I got home. Here is the current state of the car at this point. I've pretty much done about all I can do until body work and paint, other than go out and have fun!



09-20-2019 11:19 PM
shark92651
Name plate installed

I went ahead and riveted on the F5R name plate. After input from others I decided to put it on top of the passenger side footbox.

09-20-2019 11:15 PM
shark92651
Halibrand wheel hubs and spinners

This is how I decided to secure the center hubs for the fake wingnuts on the Halibrand wheels. I drilled and tapped three 8-32 holes in the hubs and secured them from the inside with 1/2” long set screws and a drop of blue locktite. I considered drilling and tapping through the outside of the wheel but decided I like this approach better. I also put some anti-seize on the wingnuts before tightening them just snug. The set screws should provide plenty of resistance to avoid a situation where the hub just spins when trying to remove a stuck spinner (I hope!)

Before re-installing the wheels I made sure all the suspension bushings and ball joints had plenty of grease, re-installed the wheels and torqued them down to 90 ft lbs.





09-17-2019 11:42 PM
shark92651
Splash guards undercoated

I pulled all my splash guards and painted them with 2 coats of my leftover Herculiner bed liner. I taped the edges where the bulb seal goes so it would be easy to re-install it. You can also see the filler panels I fabricated to fill the gaps between the body and frame in front of the rear wheels. I intend to secure my filler panels with rivets once the vehicle comes back from paint, but just holding them in place with self-tappers for now so will be easy to remove until then. The main front and rear splash panels are all removable via 10-32 rivnuts. I'm glad to finally be done with these as I probably spent more time screwing around with these panels than all the other panels in the entire build combined!

All panels coated




PS Front Splash Guard Installed




PS Rear Filler Panel




PS Rear Splash Guard Installed

09-16-2019 01:19 AM
shark92651
Steering wheel badge

There are few "finishing touches" I can do before paint, but I went ahead and installed the steering wheel badge. I did as others suggested and drilled a small hole above the o-ring to relieve air pressure if I have the need to pry it off later. Looks good

09-16-2019 01:15 AM
shark92651
Blocking engine heat to the cockpit

Despite all my efforts to insulate my foot boxes, floor, and firewall, a lot of heat is coming in from the gap between the body and the top and sides of the footboxes. Today I pulled off all my wheels and removed all my splash guards (again, I hope for the last time for awhile). I also removed my louvers so that I could get better access to block this air path. I bought some black pool noodles online and cut then into appropriately sized pieces and shoved them in to fill the gaps the best I could. I put a light in the seat shining towards the front to more easily spot the gaps. I blocked the gaps on both sides and, as you can see, it should be a lot cooler in there now. This is just temporary as Kleiner is going to install some better insulation in this area before he re-installs the body after paint.

Before



After

09-13-2019 06:42 PM
shark92651
Alignment and inspection complete

This morning I took the car to an ASE Master Technician for the inspection and alignment. This was the first time I took the car outside of my neighborhood and wouldn't you know it that on the way home a guy in a BMW wanted to race already Now I have to find somewhere to get a weight certification, fill out a few other forms, and then get it to the Tax office and hopefully I can get this baby titled and registered.

09-11-2019 10:21 PM
shark92651
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Originally Posted by Alan_C View Post
Although many have been able to get the wheel boxes supplied from FFR to work, the one on the DS side for me always found a way to skip. The solution, for many of us, was to buy replacement wheel boxes from Finish Line. I did and the install was easy and worked immediately. I did the same as you and went to a local NAPA and picked up a section of steel brake line. Funny how setting up the wipers is one of the last things we do and it rarely goes without extra effort. If you do not like the operation of the FFR supplied wheel boxes, the parts sold by Finish Line are your answer. The combo of wipers and Rain-X is good, but just staying out of the rain is best if you can.

The car looks great in gel coat, should be amazing once Kleiner is done with it.
Thanks for the info and appreciate the comments. I've got insurance and a temp 30 day tag and taking for an alignment and inspection on Friday. Hopefully I can be done with the entire title/registration process soon.
09-10-2019 04:13 PM
Alan_C Although many have been able to get the wheel boxes supplied from FFR to work, the one on the DS side for me always found a way to skip. The solution, for many of us, was to buy replacement wheel boxes from Finish Line. I did and the install was easy and worked immediately. I did the same as you and went to a local NAPA and picked up a section of steel brake line. Funny how setting up the wipers is one of the last things we do and it rarely goes without extra effort. If you do not like the operation of the FFR supplied wheel boxes, the parts sold by Finish Line are your answer. The combo of wipers and Rain-X is good, but just staying out of the rain is best if you can.

The car looks great in gel coat, should be amazing once Kleiner is done with it.
09-09-2019 12:54 PM
shark92651
Wipers installed

On Saturday I got the wipers installed, which is something I needed to finish before inspection. In hindsight I probably should have just gone with some temporary clip-on wipers, but I bought these when I ordered the kit so I was going to install them. They were pretty straight forward to install following the instructions, but I do have a few tips. The holes are drilled at a pretty steep angle and to a size of 5/8". At first I tried to use the jig they provide while drilling. I found that that size bit was just grabbing too much on the jig or the body itself and was not working very well. I was hoping to find a 5/8" hole saw at Home Depot, but they don't sell one that small. In the end I just used the jig to mark the starting location with a Sharpie and then used a smaller bit, holding the drill next to the jig to approximate the angle. After I got a small hole started I used a step-bit up to 1/2", and clamped the jig back in place and ran the 5/8" bit to set the final size of the hole. With a 1/2" "pilot" hole already in place the 5/8" bit ran just fine in the jig.

I gave up trying to flare that stainless tubing they provide. It was just way too hard and my only attempt to flare it ended up with a lopsided flare. This was using the Eastwood flaring tool I borrowed from a friend. I ditched the stainless, went to Autozone and picked up a piece of the basic steel 5/16" tubing and flared that easily.

Another thing that wasn't completely obvious to me at first is that when you are ready to install the cable in the wheelboxes, you really need to remove the wheelboxes from the body and feed the cable into them while putting the tubing in place. At first I thought it just snapped into place but that doesn't work, at least not for me. And finally I did use a torch and bent the arms just a bit to bring the wipers down and more parallel with the base of the windshield. They work, but they don't really feel like quality wipers to me and in the end I'll probably rely more on Rain-X than the wipers.



09-06-2019 05:39 AM
IsaacW Hell yes!! Nice work. Iím about 5-6 months behind you ..... great progress man. Canít wait till I get there, but that will be spring.


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09-04-2019 03:26 PM
Alan_C Congrats, great build, looking forward to seeing it in paint. This is a great build thread that will help others that follow you. Now, get it registered and drive it while Kleiner works you into his schedule.
09-04-2019 12:36 AM
shark92651
I have a "gelcoat driver"!

Aside from just a couple loose ends (notably wipers, PS pipe hanger, wheel spinners, and undercoating my splash guards) I have a completed gelcoat driver! I just contacted my insurance company and will begin the process of insurance, title, and registration and enjoy it like this until Kleiner can work it into the schedule for paint.







08-27-2019 02:21 AM
shark92651
Vinegaroon chemistry lesson

Thanks to a tip from Jeff Kleiner, I made up some Vinegaroon and turned my check straps black tonight. Vinegaroon is basically just vinegar with dissolved/rusted steel wool in it. It causes a chemical reaction with the tannins in the leather that turns it black. Unlike dye it will not rub off and it doesn't change the color of the threads so it makes for a cool look. Literally took 30 seconds to do and no stained fingers.






https://www.instructables.com/id/Vin...k-Leather-Dye/
08-26-2019 02:36 PM
JKleiner
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Originally Posted by shark92651 View Post
I would be shocked if I didn't have to do something twice in this build


Jeff
08-26-2019 12:43 PM
shark92651
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Originally Posted by JKleiner View Post
Looks good!

Just so you know---it is not uncommon for the body to pipe relationship to change during the bodywork/final fitting stage which often results in needing to use a different wedge and moving the hanger's pivot point. Don't be shocked to find that a bit of rework may in your future.

Jeff
I would be shocked if I didn't have to do something twice in this build
08-25-2019 10:47 PM
JKleiner Looks good!

Just so you know---it is not uncommon for the body to pipe relationship to change during the bodywork/final fitting stage which often results in needing to use a different wedge and moving the hanger's pivot point. Don't be shocked to find that a bit of rework may in your future.

Jeff
08-25-2019 05:42 PM
IsaacW
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Originally Posted by shark92651 View Post
That's pretty cool, and cheap - I think I may have all the ingredients already. I will try this method.

https://www.instructables.com/id/Vin...k-Leather-Dye/


That looks great, I think Iíll be using that method.


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08-25-2019 01:20 PM
shark92651
Side pipe hangers mod

When I tried to install my side pipe hangers I could tell there was a problem. This is the PS pipe after I installed a wedge spacer to bring the pipe in 1 1/2". I still need to bring the tip in another 1/2" to match the DS, but even so you can see that the hanger is a bit high, nearly touching the body, and a bit too far to the outboard. The DS actually made contact with the body and I need to allow for some movement. I don't know if this is an issue with the way my engine is sitting in the mounts, or just the combination of parts I am using or what, but I didn't not want to mess with the engine or mounts so the fix would have to be with the hanger itself.




The fix I decided on was to make a small extension bracket to bring the hangers down and in to the proper position. I brought home a piece of Kydex plastic from work and used that to make a template. I bolted it to the pipe tab and just held the hanger up to it in the best position and marked it for holes. I then shaped it and used the template to transfer the outline to a piece of 2" x 3/16" steel bar I picked up at Home Depot. I then powder coated them gray. I would have preferred silver but I had the gray on hand and this will not be very visible anyway. I ended up with a basically triangular shape as I will only use a single bolt on the pipe tab in order to allow movement - from reading the forums this seemed to be a common recommendation to prevent cracking around the tab.




For mounting the rubber hanger and the pivot, I went with 5/16-18" rivnuts to work with the supplied hardware. I didn't want to through bolt into the floor and I had picked these up at the start of the build just for this purpose anyway.




And here is the DS installed. It allows 1/2" clearance between the body and the top of the hanger. I also installed a stainless washer between the bracket and the tab to facilitate movement. I'll install the PS after I get that last 1/2" wedge installed.

08-25-2019 01:00 PM
shark92651
Anti-sub belts

I pulled my seats again to install the anti-submarine belt (should have planned ahead and done this when I riveted in the seat bracket). I drilled a 1/2" hole through the bottom seat bracket and through the floor and attached with the supplied hardware. Hopefully the next time I pull the seats will be after paint when I am installing the carpet.

08-22-2019 01:14 PM
shark92651
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Originally Posted by JKleiner View Post
Another option is to go the vinegroon route like my friend Brent:



https://www.ffcars.com/forums/17-fac...ck-straps.html

Cheers,
Jeff
That's pretty cool, and cheap - I think I may have all the ingredients already. I will try this method.

https://www.instructables.com/id/Vin...k-Leather-Dye/
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