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Today 01:14 PM
shark92651
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Originally Posted by JKleiner View Post
Another option is to go the vinegroon route like my friend Brent:



https://www.ffcars.com/forums/17-fac...ck-straps.html

Cheers,
Jeff
That's pretty cool, and cheap - I think I may have all the ingredients already. I will try this method.

https://www.instructables.com/id/Vin...k-Leather-Dye/
Today 10:04 AM
JKleiner Another option is to go the vinegroon route like my friend Brent:



https://www.ffcars.com/forums/17-fac...ck-straps.html

Cheers,
Jeff
Today 04:39 AM
Alan_C
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Originally Posted by shark92651 View Post
Yes I plan to dye them black. There is a leather store not far from here called Tandy Leather and I will swing by some time and see what they have. I would prefer black with a matte or satin finish if I can find something like that.
I used Kiwi liquid black shoe polish, the leather absorbed the polish and left a mate finish. The hard part was trying to get the polish into the loops at the ends of the straps. I took care of that with a fine paint brush to work the polish in to the loops. Not high tech, but it worked.
08-19-2019 01:29 AM
shark92651
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Originally Posted by IsaacW View Post
Did you have any plans to dye the leather door straps? Seeing the way it looks with the factory color, I will be ordering the same color media Paul used, and treating the door straps and seat Belt leather.


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Yes I plan to dye them black. There is a leather store not far from here called Tandy Leather and I will swing by some time and see what they have. I would prefer black with a matte or satin finish if I can find something like that.
08-18-2019 10:19 PM
IsaacW Did you have any plans to dye the leather door straps? Seeing the way it looks with the factory color, I will be ordering the same color media Paul used, and treating the door straps and seat Belt leather.


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08-18-2019 08:32 PM
shark92651
Wind wings, sun visors, and mirrors installed

I also got the wind wings, sun visors, and mirrors installed today. When I first started researching for my build I decided I wanted all these options. The wind wing mounted side-view mirrors and the windshield mounted rear-view mirror with the bracket from Dark Water Customs were recommended by several as providing superior visibility to the stock mirrors and location on the body. Besides, there are a few less holes to put in the body and I really like they way they look.

The wind wings were pretty easy to assemble and install on the windshield side bars. The sun visors had me a little concerned as the brass is easy to strip and I read that the screws can bottom out on the glass. I test fitted all the screws with the brackets and it did not feel to me like anything was bottoming out. I installed the screws until I could just feel some resistance, just snug. In each case the bracket felt secure so I felt pretty good about it. I then removed the screws one at a time and put a little blue loctite on each one and reinstalled.




The rear-view bracket from Dark Water was a completely different story, however. At first I tried to use the supplied hex nuts but I just could not get them to hold securely. At first I tried using the end of a small screwdriver to keep the nut from turning while tightening, but that didn't work very well and the bracket was still loose. Also, the supplied screws were bottoming out on the metal inside the windshield frame. I took a look at EdwardB's thread and saw that he used some rectangular nut plates to install his. I have some 8-32 nut plates left over from my hood latch installation so I cut those down and drilled/tapped them to 5mm - .80 to match the supplied screws. I used my dremel to cut off both sides of the nut plates and my grinder with a flap disk. I had to take some material off the top and bottom, and also reduce the thickness to get it to slide into the frame. I also had to take a bit off the length of the screws to keep them from bottoming out. It sure is a lot of work to have to make your own nuts



08-18-2019 08:10 PM
shark92651
Side pipe wedge installed

I ordered a side-pipe adjustment wedge from Breeze last week and it came in this weekend so I went ahead and installed it. I bought the 1-1/2" wedge and another gasket. This worked great to bring the passenger side pipe in and parallel to the body. The driver's and passenger sides are within 1/4" of each other now. In order to get the nuts to engage I needed slightly longer bolts so I picked up some 3/8-16 x 1 1/2" stainless socket head bolts at Lowes.







I went ahead and installed the front splash guards on both sides now that the pipes are in place. I made the splash guards removable with some 10-32 rivnuts on the F-panels. I still need to make some tabs to lock them down to the body at the bottom since I had to trim them quite a bit to fit the way I like.

08-18-2019 08:10 PM
shark92651
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Originally Posted by IsaacW View Post
Thatís looking sharp. Excited for you. Great process!


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Thanks, feels great to be so close to the finish, at least with everything I can do before paint and body work.
08-18-2019 05:08 PM
IsaacW
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Originally Posted by shark92651 View Post
Today I got the seats secured. I am using the Breeze seat brackets which provide a little bit of recline and adjust-ability, although I doubt I will ever move them from the rear most position. The lower bracket is riveted to the floor and frame members using 1/8" and 3/16" rivets, depending on whether you are drilling into a frame member or just the aluminum floor.









I also used the supplied boards which are supposed to give a bit more thigh support and prevent the foam from pressing down between the seat frame rails. The instructions called for the board to extend 3 1/2" beyond the front frame rail, but I found that was not going to work with my leather seats. I don't know if it is because the way the leather wraps on the sides prevents the board from moving forward or what, but I ended up setting it at 2". I sprayed the boards with a water seal product as the instructions recommended, and I had to drill a hole to allow me to pass my seat heater wires through.









It's nice to have the seats finally secured. I'm about ready to take my first ride with the body on.





Thatís looking sharp. Excited for you. Great process!


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08-18-2019 02:30 AM
shark92651
Seats installed

Today I got the seats secured. I am using the Breeze seat brackets which provide a little bit of recline and adjust-ability, although I doubt I will ever move them from the rear most position. The lower bracket is riveted to the floor and frame members using 1/8" and 3/16" rivets, depending on whether you are drilling into a frame member or just the aluminum floor.




I also used the supplied boards which are supposed to give a bit more thigh support and prevent the foam from pressing down between the seat frame rails. The instructions called for the board to extend 3 1/2" beyond the front frame rail, but I found that was not going to work with my leather seats. I don't know if it is because the way the leather wraps on the sides prevents the board from moving forward or what, but I ended up setting it at 2". I sprayed the boards with a water seal product as the instructions recommended, and I had to drill a hole to allow me to pass my seat heater wires through.




It's nice to have the seats finally secured. I'm about ready to take my first ride with the body on.

08-13-2019 01:02 PM
shark92651
License plate light wiring

Last night I also finished up the wiring for the license plate light. I searched the forums to see how others routed the wiring and this is the position I ended up with. I like this spot because it is close to where I brought the wire loom up through the trunk floor and I can just zip-tie it to the hinge to keep it neat. You can shine a bright flashlight through the fiberglass to see where the metal plate is to make sure you can avoid it. I had some left over grommets from my wiring and found one that slipped over the wire loom and used that to determine what size hole to drill. My grommets don't work very well on the thick fiberglass so I kind of cut slits on the back of it and shoved it in the best I could. I'll try to find a more suitable grommet and replace this one after paint.

I pulled a single wire out of some Romex home wiring cable I had on hand and used that to fish from the hole I drilled up to the trunk opening. This wire is stiff enough to fish easily, yet flexes better than a coat hanger would. I found that it only needed to go about 1/2 way up the hood before it found an opening and then arched over to the hole.




I used a couple of those "license bolt" LEDs in my modified license plate holder so I twisted the leads together and put a bit of heat-shrink on each to keep them together. I used some of the small spade connectors on each so that they can be easily removed for paint or bulb replacement.



08-13-2019 12:47 PM
shark92651
Side pipes mounted

Yesterday I got both of my side pipe holes opened up and the pipes mounted. Since I chose the factory hole cutout option, I already had a hole there that followed the shape of the template in the manual so I decided it was best to stick with that basic shape. I rested the side pipes on my jack with a moving blanket underneath to protect it and put it into position. On the driver's side I could tell right away I needed to cut out quite a bit more on top and towards the rear. I couldn't even get close to putting the top bolt in. I printed and cut out the paper template from the manual and used that as a guide. I marked it short of where the final hole needed to be and taped the template in place. I had to mark the top and side, and then move the template to alight the other vertical, and finish marking it. I made the long straight cuts with my dremel, cutting diagonals near the corners. I then shaped the corners with a drum sander on my drill and then test fitted the pipe again. I had to do this about 3 times on each side in order to get to the final shape. I ended up with about 1/2" on the sides and about 3/4" on the top.

Here are a couple shots of the driver's Side. This pipe seems to be hanging perfectly to me. It is fairly parallel to the body and the ground. At first I was concerned because the top bolt was extended beyond the cutout and it would most certainly hit the body when the engine moves. I then remembered I hadn't put my splash guard back in place. Once I put that back in, the bolt head clears the body so that will not be an issue any more.






Here is the passenger side. I measured this side and found that it hung down about 3/4" lower, and the tip extends out about 1 3/4" further than the DS. I loosened all four bolts and lifted the tip of the pipe, rotating it against the bolts, and then held that position with my jack and re-tightened all of the bolts. After doing this, the height is now perfect so I think I can get by with a single wedge spacer to bring the tip in 1.5".

08-11-2019 07:17 PM
shark92651
Trunk mounted

Next up was the trunk and I got it mostly done this morning. Like most of the body panels, it ain't perfect but it closes and latches tight. I'm hoping my painter pro can straighten up all the gaps for me.






The lip on the body at the bottom of the trunk was not cut very straight so I spent a fair bit of time sanding that until it was even all the way across. I then went ahead and mounted the bulb seal and the catch. That paper in my trunk is the template I created for cutting out the carpet. I decided to just leave it in place as a protector so that the carpet won't get too dirty during all the body work.

08-11-2019 07:05 PM
shark92651
Doors mounted

Yesterday I got both of the doors fitted and the latches installed. For now I am using stacks of washers and standard hex nuts on the plungers. Later, I plan to dress that up with some spacers cut to length and some cap nuts.




I did have a bit of a time getting the driver's side door mounted. I started another thread in the Roadster forum and posted quite a few pics there. I got some great advice and was able to get the door hung fairly well. No need to repeat that info so I'll just link to that thread here: Need advice on fitting the @#$!$ drivers side door and latch

I ended up using the laser cut spacer on the driver's side and also had to elongate the slot in the striker plate by about 1/8". The passenger side was a breeze to install in comparison. No spacer was needed so in order to allow clearance for the carriage bolt mod on the latches, I marked the fiberglass and then opened up the existing hole with a drum sander. Here is the "before photo" (I forgot to take an after, but you get the idea).






I installed the check straps as well. The manual calls for rivets but I prefer making things removable if possible. I want to pull these back off later to dye them black anyway. I used 10-32 SS bolts and nylon locknuts to mount to the door hinge and I drilled/tapped the 2x2 frame rails for the same 10-32 SS bolts.

08-04-2019 01:35 AM
shark92651
Radiator aluminum installed

This morning I got my front radiator aluminum installed as well. I bought the piece from Mike at replicaparts.com and also the top piece from Breeze Automotive. I had the large radiator piece powder coated a satin black several months ago along with some other parts, while the Breeze piece comes already powder coated. After some careful measuring it seemed that the front aluminum was going to be just a bit too tight. I briefly though about changing the angle of the radiator, but I decided that just trimming the aluminum would be a lot easier. I removed the bulb seal from the inside edge, marked it with tape and trimmed about 1/2" off the bottom and sides, tapering to the point at the top where the piece is riveted into place.




Here is a shot from inside showing the seal of the top aluminum piece. I put a piece of bulb seal on it and it seals it up quite nicely.




Because I have already (roughly) mounted the hood, I could not get to all the rivet holes I had drilled earlier before I installed the body. I did manage to get 3 rivets installed on each side, which will hold it just fine for now, and I will ask the painter to install the last few rivets when he has the hood and body off for paint.

08-04-2019 01:34 AM
shark92651
Windshield mounted

This afternoon I got the windshield installed with the help of my son. It was not without incident, as usual. I manage to strip one of the threaded holes in the brass insert on the drivers side. It certainly doesn't take much to strip it, it seems I was barely turning it and none of them seem to fit very tight - gaps at the top. I guess I will go ahead and pester Whitby's to fill my order and I'll have the painter swap them out for the SS inserts when he has to pull the windshield back off. From the advice I received in my other thread, I measured down 13" from the bottom screw hole and marked the side bars and then cut the excess off at a 45 degree angle with my angle grinder. Once I got enough of the openings in the body opened up for the windshield to fit properly, measuring 27" from the top of the body above doors to the top screw, I reached in and marked the holes. I pulled it back out again, center punched them, and used a series of drill bits to get it up to the 27/64 bit and then tapped the holes to 1/2" - 13. When I installed the bolts I found that the drivers side was flush to the body mount but there was a small gap on the passenger side, and I used a couple 1/2" washers (about 1/8" thick) as spacers and then tightened everything down. I still need to square and clean up the windshield rubber and get the trim rings mounted, but otherwise I am done with this for now.



07-28-2019 10:50 PM
shark92651
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Originally Posted by IsaacW View Post
I like the look of the shiny metal ... my vote is polish. Whatís your method for polish?
I've never actually done it myself, I paid pros to polish my roll bars. I did a little research and I was thinking of some 2000 grit sandpaper and then some Flitz with a mini Flitz ball on my drill.
07-28-2019 10:48 PM
shark92651
Roll bars installed

Today I got the dual Breeze stainless roll bars and trim rings mounted. It was a bit of a struggle to get the stub tubes on the rear legs into place but I finally manged to get them both on, along with the trim rings.






I also got my license plate light/bracket mounted, just need to run the wiring through the trunk and wire it up. I was thinking of using a couple small spade connectors so that it can be easily removed for painting. I also learned that it's normal for the hump to be off center from the pre-cut holes for the trunk latch

07-28-2019 03:08 PM
IsaacW I like the look of the shiny metal ... my vote is polish. Whatís your method for polish?


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07-27-2019 07:20 PM
shark92651
Removable trans cover mounted

Today I finally finished the mounting of the removable trans cover. I first aligned the side bars on the cover and clamped into place and then drilled some 1/8" holes through the cover, then opened up to 3/16". I then put the cover in place and drilled 3/16" holes through the side aluminum and frame rails. I used some of my 3/16" clecos to hold everything straight and square as I drilled




Next I removed the cover and opened the holes up to 5/16" for the rivnuts. I used a 1/2" drill bit on top of that to shave down the lizard skin around the aluminum to make sure the rivnuts seat tight against the metal and compress properly.




I decided to go ahead and install my shift boot as well. I disassembled the top of my shifter so that I could slip the boot over it. I laid out the shift boot the way I wanted it to sit, stretched it out and pressed small nails into each rivnut where I need to install a screw. I then used one of the cheap Harbor Freight hole punches I bought to punch out a hole in each location.




And here is what it looks like so far. I am still undecided how to finish the side bars. At first I was planing to paint/powder coat them black but now I am leaning towards polishing them. I think I will switch to stainless oval head screws as well. What do you guys think, powder or polish?

07-27-2019 12:23 AM
Alan_C
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Originally Posted by shark92651 View Post
I skimmed through your build - impressive. Looks like you are doing a great job!
Thank you, I appreciate it that you took a look. I am trying to build a quality car for me and the future owner when the day comes.

Not to get to far off track, I got measurements for the coolant recovery tank used on the 2004 Mustang as well and evaluating the Moroso tank for the current Mustangs, neither is going to come close to fitting. I have found that Canton has a custom fabrication option, I believe I am going that route. The mod motors use a coolant recovery tank that is 4 qts in size, quite large. I have designed a rectangular tank that will have a capacity of 3 1/2 qts, should be enough. I am going to submit the design to Canton on Monday. It will be interesting to see what the quote for the tank will be. I am hoping it will only be 2x of their off the shelf designs.
07-26-2019 04:13 PM
shark92651
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Originally Posted by Alan_C View Post
My Mustang is a 1970 Mach 1. The build is a full restomod with 2nd Gen Coyote and 6R80 AT. I used a 2017 GT bought at auction as a donor. I am into the plumbing phase now. The coolant recovery tank is becoming problematic as I do not have at much room between the engine and radiator as there is in the GT. A solution will be found even if it means having a custom part made. If you are interested here is a link to my build thread.

https://forums.vintage-mustang.com/b...mod-build.html
I skimmed through your build - impressive. Looks like you are doing a great job!
07-25-2019 01:45 PM
Alan_C
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Originally Posted by shark92651 View Post
Well that's a bummer. What year is your mustang?
My Mustang is a 1970 Mach 1. The build is a full restomod with 2nd Gen Coyote and 6R80 AT. I used a 2017 GT bought at auction as a donor. I am into the plumbing phase now. The coolant recovery tank is becoming problematic as I do not have at much room between the engine and radiator as there is in the GT. A solution will be found even if it means having a custom part made. If you are interested here is a link to my build thread.

https://forums.vintage-mustang.com/b...mod-build.html
07-25-2019 12:18 PM
shark92651
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Originally Posted by Alan_C View Post
I received my Moroso coolant overflow tank this morning. I checked the fit on my Coyote power Mustang, but no go. The way this tank was designed to mount, the tank sits too high to clear the hood. I am going to look at the Canton overflow tank I used with my 4.6L DOHC in the Cobra as an alternative as I believe it was a bit smaller. Too bad, the Moroso product looks very well made.
Well that's a bummer. What year is your mustang?
07-24-2019 08:20 PM
Alan_C
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Originally Posted by shark92651 View Post
Yes it is. It works great and no issues if mounted similar to the way I did it - it clears the hood, which was my biggest concern.
I received my Moroso coolant overflow tank this morning. I checked the fit on my Coyote power Mustang, but no go. The way this tank was designed to mount, the tank sits too high to clear the hood. I am going to look at the Canton overflow tank I used with my 4.6L DOHC in the Cobra as an alternative as I believe it was a bit smaller. Too bad, the Moroso product looks very well made.
07-23-2019 04:33 PM
shark92651
Quote:
Originally Posted by JKleiner View Post
Best trunk seal both for fit and function is what Factory Five provided.

Jeff
Well that certainly makes it easy. I haven't even looked for that bulb seal yet but will check it out tonight. Thanks.
07-23-2019 03:16 PM
JKleiner
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Originally Posted by shark92651 View Post

then figure out what sort of seal I am going to use around the trunk opening and make sure I have that in place before I mount the catch....Anyone have any advice for me on this?
Best trunk seal both for fit and function is what Factory Five provided.

Jeff
07-23-2019 02:56 PM
shark92651
Body work continues

I got a few more items done since my last update. I went ahead and mounted the paddles and the catches for the hood latches. For now I decided to just use the supplied pieces and rounded the ends. I attached them pretty much the way the manual shows with the bolts through the bumpers. They seems to work just fine for now and I can always modify it later if I feel the need. The hood certainly isn't gapped very well and the front corner on one side is too high but I think I will leave all that for the painter to fix.






I also got the trunk mounted. I took off just enough material to get it to fit - certainly a lot less work than the hood, but like the hood it doesn't sit flush on one side in the rear. I think it needs some more material taken off the top.



I bought the trunk gas strut kit from replicaparts.com and got it mounted as per the instructions. It works very well, can't even close the trunk now as it will open it slightly when closed. I started to attach the latch but I feel I need to take my time to ensure I get the catch mounted in the right location. One thing I noticed is that the lip on the body at the bottom is lower on one side. I plan to level that lip and then figure out what sort of seal I am going to use around the trunk opening and make sure I have that in place before I mount the catch. The last thing I want to do is have it too tight or too loose in the final configuration. I have to get that done before I can close the trunk again, however. Anyone have any advice for me on this?



07-19-2019 12:23 AM
shark92651
Hood latches

I received the parts I ordered from McMaster to perform the hood latch mods others have done. I sent a PM to EdwardB and he informed me that he used a bushing with a 3/8" opening and filed down the edges of the square shaft on the latch for a tight fit, so that is what I did as well. I also ordered Nut Plates and bonded them underneath so that I could use 8-32 oval head machine screws rather than the self tapping screws provided. Like most everything, this was more work than I expected but I am glad that I did it and pleased with the results.

Parts I ordered from McMaster Carr:
98001A115 Low-Profile Narrow-Base Weld Nut, 8-32 Thread Size, Packs of 25
7815K23 Multipurpose Flanged Sleeve Bearing for 3/8" Shaft Diameter and 5/8" Housing ID, 3/4" Long


Here are all the parts prepped for installation. I ran a file along the corners of the latch post until it slid tightly into the bearings, I cut the bearings down to 1/4" length so there is no interference with the latch itself, and I drilled a couple extra holes into the nut plates to aid in bonding to the fiberglass.





Here is a view from the top after all the work was done and waiting for the Bondo Glass to cure. You can see that I had originally mounted the latches with the screws in a front to rear orientation - that was a mistake, this is what happens when you get ahead of yourself and follow the manual on a task rather than checking the forums first. There is not enough room for the nut plates unless the screw holes go side to side on the hood. Oh well, I just sanded them down a bit and filled them in. Another thing you will notice is that the hole on the top is opened up to 7/8" whereas the one on the bottom is 5/8" as in the manual. I originally drilled both sides 5/8" but then opened up the top to 7/8" go give myself a bit more room to fit the nut plates in. Do yourself a favor and make those holes into slots as shown in EdwardB's thread - makes it a lot easier to install as you can just thread a bolt into the plate and then slide it right into place. I was trying to feed them in from underneath and had a heck of a time getting them in the right position to screw them down. Once again, if I had to do it over again I would slot them.




Here is a shot from underneath that shows the nut plate being held in place with a bolt while the glass filler cures. I drilled a couple extra holes in each nut plate to allow the filler something else to grab onto.




Here is the underside that shows the sleeve bearing after latch installation. After the Bondo Glass cured, I put a small fillet of JB weld around it and on the inside to help secure it. A couple notes on the bearing - first you need to cut it down to around 1/4" length to allow the latch to seat properly. Also, as the painter pointed on on Facebook, don't buy the oil impregnated ones if you intend to paint over it. Oil and paint don't mix so well




And finally here is a shot of the latches screwed down and the hood in place. Next up is the catches on the underside of the body, and yes I guess I will make my own with a curved recess so that the paddles "snap" into place. Can't leave well enough alone.

07-19-2019 12:22 AM
shark92651
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Originally Posted by Alan_C View Post
Is that the Moroso Cooling System Expansion Tank 63806? I am looking for a aluminum tank for my Coyote powered Mustang restomod. If it is, any issues with using it?

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/m...6/applications
Yes it is. It works great and no issues if mounted similar to the way I did it - it clears the hood, which was my biggest concern.
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