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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 02-27-2019, 05:27 PM Thread Starter
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Michigan Assembled Vehicle Law

Has anyone in Michigan had any luck registering their vehicle as a 1965 since the Assembled Vehicle legislation went into effect 2018/19?

I was just getting insurance quotes and was told that they have been seeing many FFRs come back as a "2018 Assembled Vehicle" rather than a 1965 Roadster. The agent also said that the insurance costs are significantly higher if it is registered as a modern assembled vehicle.


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I've done the Michigan assembled vehicle process three times. The most recent a coupe years ago for Roadster #8674. I wasn't aware of this specific update. But upon review, doesn't look like anything different to me. Basically they're just reiterating the equipment and safety requirements for the builds. Bottom line, you won't be titling your FF build as a 1965. There's no option or flexibility on this. It will be titled as an assembled vehicle with the model year the same year as your application. The VIN number will be a made up number as opposed to the FF chassis number. I could give more details, but they're outlined quite thoroughly on the SOS website.

Also be aware that your local SOS office probably will have had very little experience with the process. So it's to your advantage to study and know the process thoroughly so that you have everything they need. I've found they were appreciative that I did my homework and had everything. Finally, be aware the process isn't completed at your local SOS office. They have little/no latitude in the process. Everything for assembled vehicles goes to Lansing and they complete the process.


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If you don't mind, can you give me a quick rundown of the process?

It looks like you start with a TR-54 and and a scheduled inspection. The owner fills out the top of the form including the year. I'm assuming that if I put 1965 that they will disregard it?

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If you don't mind, can you give me a quick rundown of the process?

It looks like you start with a TR-54 and and a scheduled inspection. The owner fills out the top of the form including the year. I'm assuming that if I put 1965 that they will disregard it?
They explain the process here. It's pretty straightforward: https://www.michigan.gov/documents/B...3__83315_7.pdf. I've only done new non-donor builds. So the only receipts I've provided were (1) The kit itself, (2) The engine. I've only done new crate motors, (3) The transmission. Again, I've only done new ones. There was never a question about serial numbers for the new engine or trans. But note in all cases they want the original receipts. Plus of course the Certificate of Origin from Factory Five. So make copies beforehand.

This is the TR-54. https://www.michigan.gov/documents/TR-54_38480_7.pdf. You can enter 1965 if you want. But since it hasn't been previously titled and the Assembled Vehicle process assigns it the year it was titled, it won't mean anything. I don't think you're going to win this one. You say "scheduled inspection." It's not real formal. Any law enforcement officer can complete the form. Typically you would contact your local jurisdiction and they will send someone. In my case, it's the Oakland county sheriff. They have a couple guys in our local substation who are trained to complete the safety inspection, and they come right to the house. Usually within an hour or less of when I call. At least that's how it's worked for me. If you know a LEO, often they can arrange or do it themselves.
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Thank you for sharing, I have no doubt that my experience will be much the same. Hopefully it doesn't take the full 10 weeks...

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Submitted the application 4/8/19
Approval letter 4/11/19
Meeting at my house to apply VIN 4/29/19

I would suggest calling if you haven't heard back two weeks after the approval letter. I did, and was provided with the cell # of the agent that it was given to. I called him, and he is stopping by tomorrow AM.

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Have you found insurance yet? Are you titling as historic or regular? I'm about to renew and looking for lower cost options. Currently paying $670/yr to american modern for 3,000miles/$34k value/$250 deductible. I only drive 250 miles or so a year.

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Have you found insurance yet? Are you titling as historic or regular? I'm about to renew and looking for lower cost options. Currently paying $670/yr to american modern for 3,000miles/$34k value/$250 deductible. I only drive 250 miles or so a year.

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That's the same company I use and similar price. Haven't shopped around for a few years, but it was the best deal at the time. It's collector car insurance, but not historic. Typically historic will get you coverage only to and from events, during events, etc. Not regular driving. American Modern has lower mileage tier levels. That would save you some.

Michigan has some of the highest rates in the country. Recent regulatory changes by the state will hopefully lower the rates in the next year or two.

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