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Test fit for the T56 and QT bell. This 'box is one heavy S*B, and I'll probably have to install the engine first and then come up from underneath with the gear box. Also took some measurements to see where the Transmission cross member would be. I had some concerns that some of the welds on the SFC's would interfere with the cross member mounting, but it looks like I'm OK.



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I decided I wanted a removable upper horizontal piece of the core support, mainly because I'm old and feeble and I know the engine and trans is going to be in and out several times. I fabbed a pair of brackets that weld into the removable piece, and it is held in place by four button head -20 bolts on each end. I also used steel nutserts from mcmaster.com.
I had to add a weld bead at the ends of the cuts to fill in the kerf. I used a piece of copper backing on the inside to so the weld bead would be flat on the inside and minimize any grinding I had to do.
Here's a photo of one of the brackets with the nutrserts installed


This is a neat little tool used for installing nutserts I got at mcmaster.com, I had one of the pliers type installers, but this one is much easier to operate when using heavy duty nutserts.


Here is the upper piece installed, I still have to do a little clean up on it prior to paint, so all that will be seen is the part line and the bolt heads.
If this proves to be a weak link, I have a " dia piece of .060 DOM tubing that I can use as a support behind the core support.



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If you use a Monte Carlo bar, that should make up for any weakness that could be there because it's held in place by the bolts.

I think you bought the mega bar, right?


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If you use a Monte Carlo bar, that should make up for any weakness that could be there because it's held in place by the bolts.

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Yes, but I don't think they are in business anymore. The web link is dead. I just googled "mega monte carlo bar" and the only thing that shows up is the dead link. But it is a nice piece and fits perfectly.

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Nice bit of fab work on the core support, but I think you're overestimating the forces at work on the core support - particularly if you are running tower support braces.
I reserve the use of nutserts for those places where I have no access to the back side of the metal. I've used washer-head nuts and welded them in place for sort of a "captive nut" scenario.

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Attempted to dry fit the T56 and a bare block, I'm using Ron Morris adjustable motor mounts, and in the stock position I couldn't get the transmission high enough to get a decent drive line angle. The transmission ended up pressing against the bottom of the trans tunnel. Tried the lower position and there was some pan to rack interference. So my only recourse is to raise the transmission tunnel. So I cut the trans tunnel out and will be adding some sheet metal to raise it about 1.5" I used some scrap metal I had laying around and clecoed them in place. With a little reshaping of the tunnel top, it almost fell into place.


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Now you have to add custom front carpet and center console to the list.
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A little tin work

Fabricated the rear cover of the transmission tunnel from 18 ga cold roll steel. Cut out a pattern from some poster paper I picked up at Walmart, and hand formed it over it over a 4" piece of PVC into the general shape and then used a HF shrinker/streatcher to make the metal conform to the trans tunnel. This is the first time I have attempted to form sheet metal on a shrinker/streacher and IMO, it fit pretty good. It's temporally held in place right now, I still have to form some metal for the right side of the trans tunnel at the firewall. The transmission has some interference in this area.



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Nice work as always John. With that metal shaping work, you're going to have to join Jalopy Journal's H.A.M.B. forum.

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Thanks Ray, but you should see all the patches that didn't turn out the way they were supposed to. Right now it's a bit of trial and error until I actually learn how to do it.

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Adventures in Powdercoating

I got an Eastwood powder coat gun several years ago, and finally decided to try it out. I get my powder from powder365.com they have an extensive selection of colors and types, much more than Eastwood. These are Fox type AC brackets done in a medium gray metallic, and a clear gloss powder over that. The metallic really pops in the sun.


And my wheels came in, they are Vintage Wheel Works V45, 17X8 and 17X9

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Another very cool project.

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BF Goodrich G Force sport 2 in 225/45/17 on VWW V45 17X8 and 255/40/17 on VWW V45 17X9. The tread on the rears is 10" wide and may not work with a stock suspension

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Almost finished with the transmission tunnel enlargement for the T56. I kept the stock top but raised it about 1 3/4", it's also widened at the front about 1". Compared to the original tunnel it almost looks like I could fit a Fuller 15 speed Road Ranger in there.


The block off at the rear of the tunnel was necessary because it was getting into the area of the one piece seat riser and I didn't want to cut it. Otherwise, there would be a cavity that would catch dirt, etc. In addition to welding in the tunnel on the inside, additional sheet metal was added to the underside weld area at the fire wall and the transmission tunnel to strengthen this joint.
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I was orignially going to use a Ron Morris trans mount, but it didn't have the adjustment I needed. So I found this Alston/TCP cross member that will work. The mount that bolts to the transmission isolator will have to be modified, I think it's made to fit a Chevy and the bolt pattern is too narrow to fit the isolator that I have.

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This was a test to see how these valve covers would look powder coated. The main color is medium gray metallic, with a gloss clear over that. The gray is about the same color that the body will be. I have three sets of these covers so hopefully I'll get it right before the final pair.



The engine and transmission are in for a test fit so that I can set the driveline angles and see how much room I have for the radiator and fans. I was originally going to use a RM adjustable trans mount, but it wouldn't work in this application, so I got a TCI cross member, it's much more robust, made from thick wall mandrel bent tubing and fabricated frame mounts. I'm going to use the RM adjustable engine mounts, set in the dropped position.


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Those valve covers look really good. I consider them to be one of the best valve cover designs that ford ever used, I have a couple of sets myself.

Are you aware that there are two versions ?

The first version (what you have) , has a thin area around the mounting bolts , and they are easily cracked or even broken off. If you use this version, check for cracks, and be careful when mounting the cover. As a temporary fix, ford even tried used spreaders around the bolts to help prevent breakage.

The second version has a reinforced, very thick area around the mounting bolt. No problems with the second version.

Looking forward to your progress.
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The transmission cross member clamped in place. The end brackets will weld to the chassis, there is a billet clevis that welds to the tube, and then bolts to the chassis bracket. At this point, the main shaft is 3.2 down. Note the precision wooden transmission support.

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Those valve covers look really good. I consider them to be one of the best valve cover designs that ford ever used, I have a couple of sets myself.

Are you aware that there are two versions ?

The first version (what you have) , has a thin area around the mounting bolts , and they are easily cracked or even broken off. If you use this version, check for cracks, and be careful when mounting the cover. As a temporary fix, ford even tried used spreaders around the bolts to help prevent breakage.

The second version has a reinforced, very thick area around the mounting bolt. No problems with the second version.

Looking forward to your progress.
Thanks, I bought a new '82 Mustang that had those valve covers installed from the factory and always liked them. After I bought the 3d set, someone told me about the upgraded versions. They are all going for $50+ now.

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Got the trans cross member built and will powder coat it tomorrow. This was a little more involved than what the TCP instructions said it would be. My Magnum 6 speed is rotated towards the driver about 3 or 4, so just bolting the cross member in and welding the brackets was not the case. I had to cut the cross member in half because one side was way higher than the other due to the trans and mount being rotated. By cutting the tube in half, I could rotate each side individually to allow them to mate up to the frame. I ordered a piece of DOM tubing to make a reinforcement inside the tube, it was plug welded and then butt welded after securing them in the correct location. The cross member is set to give 3 down angle.
The cross member tube was cut and a reinforcement tube was inserted and welded.


The cross member clamped in place prior to final welding. I'm also welding some 1/8" thick plate to the inside face of the frame rail where the frame brackets will attach.


Here's the cross member completed and after media blasting, it will actually fit in my powder coat oven. I also had to widen the pad where the trans mount bolts to fit the Ford type mount, and I also decided to box in the mount for a little more reinforcement.

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No such thing as a 'bolt-in' upgrade with these cars.

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This is the Tin man driveshaft loop, it only required some minor grinding on the ends to match the angle of the subframe connectors. It will be welded in and could supply some stiffness to the floor, I may weld in some tabs to connect it directly to the floor pan. It's sitting on my new toy, an Eastwood welding table. It's about the same price as the HF table, but I got it at a discount and with free shipping. It makes welding much easier, than bending over you project while it's laying on the floor.


This is how it will look installed, along with the Alston/TCP trans cross member. It's within 6" of the U joint.

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Rear seat delete came in today, It will require a little trimming at the front but not too bad. I'm thinking about building a 1/2" square tube framework to support it and keep it from sagging in the center.

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Initial mock up of the fuel and return lines. I welded stainless 1/4-20 bolts to the bottom of the floor pan so I could attach the Adel clamps to hold the lines. I'm using an Aeromotive in-tank pump and a bypass type regulator. I originally wanted the lines inside the SFC's( driveline side) but the trans cross member and the driveshaft loop will be in the way. I wanted to keep the lines away from the headers and the exhaust so I routed them outside the SFC's and up through the torque box. I'm still undecided on which way to take the lines at the rear to the tank, I may just drill a couple of holes in the rear frame to get the lines inside, there is not a lot of weight on the rear of the chassis since I'm not using leaf springs, I'm using coilovers and the car weight is mostly forward of where I will drill the holes.

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Looking at some interior photos of some R models I noticed that they didn't have rear seats and the seat back hole in the fiberglass side panels was blocked off. Well, I'm not going to have a back seat, and I can fab a pair of block off plates. These will be powder coated simi gloss black and I have some rivet nuts for the fiberglass and some compatible button head screws on order to cinch them down. Much better IMO, than the OEM plates that usually fall off.
I used 6061-T4 0.040 aluminum from online metals. This aluminum comes with protective plastic sheets on both sides, so it won't get scratched up. The T4 temper is much easier to form than the normal T6

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Since I had to cut away the floor support for transmission clearance, I decided to put back in a little reinforcement. I couldn't put it on the underside, there just wasn't enough room so I welded in the reinforcement on the inside. I started with a piece of 14 gauge steel and bent it to follow the contours of the transmission tunnel and welded it in. On top of that will be a piece of 1/8" steel plate that was hand formed and will be welded in. When I say "hand formed", that was exactly how it was formed. I beat it into submission cold. Actually I would have used some heat to soften it up a little but I was out of acetylene. This should put a little more strength back into the floor pan. I don't think these reinforcements will be noticed with sound deadener and carpet installed over it.



I still need to finesse the 1/8" plate a little to get it conform a little better before I weld it in. I'm also going to shoot some weld through primer on before welding so there won't be any bare steel in the floor pan.

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