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Rear wing mount coming along.

Also I put the brake masters in both opposite and with incorrect hardware. (I just got the manual so am catching some errors)

Heat shielding will go in this weekend as well as clutch master and some more hard lines.

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Surfdog57's Gen 3 (#12) build journal.

Fuel cell mounting bracket fabrication has begun. Fuel safe no longer makes a bracket that fits and needless to say the "factory (five)" straps don't work. So... welding!

(I'll post pictures once I have it working.)

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You are a fine welder.

Did you also cut-down the master-cylinder shaft lengths according to the manual?

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On the wing mount, are you going to bolt a bracket to this and then mount the wing to it externally?
Or is this part going to protrude through the body?
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I wish I could claim credit for that weld. My buddy is stitching up the welds for me.

The bracket will hold a removable wing mounting bracket that can act at a rear bumper mount (well bumper is probably overstating it a bit... just a bar to keep followers from getting up into my rear glass.

It will look like this with the bracket holding the "through body" mounts

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Did you also cut-down the master-cylinder shaft lengths according to the manual?



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As I just got the manual a few days ago... no not yet. I am however going over my entire progress so far and bouncing it off the manual. I'll take a look to see what you are talking about.

I'm using a full willwood pedal box which I thought was pretty much plug and play.



I am just starting to redo my master cylinders with the 90 degree fittings (which were included) to join the hard lines. (The hard lines went in badly due to incorrect threads so I'm in process pulling apart and reassembling this weekend in accordance with the manual. DOH) it seemed fishy how difficult it was to get a good fit with just the hard lines when I first put them in. Now I know why.

I will probably need to either completely replace my hard lines or cut then re flange the ends with new brass connections. My lines are now just a bit too long with the 90s in.

Live and learn.

I sure am glad I rivnutted the brake access panel as I keep going back in there to do it all again and again.

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Surfdog57's Gen 3 (#12) build journal.

Cut down clutch MC length and swapped brakes to correct sides also installed hardware, re flared and re hardwared my mangled lines (that was not so fun)

Fuel cell mounting brackets are welded up and in as well as my hand made diff breather



The rear wing bracket is installed and all the hardware for the wing is off to powdercoating



Next up heat shields around foot boxes and touch up painting all the new steel around fuel cell. Once the paint is dry I'll reinstall all my rubber stripping around the tank and button up the hatch with rivnuts. (I'm going with rivnuts on the aft hatch panel to make cell maintenance and fuel pump/filter upkeep a bit easier)



Plenty to keep me busy this weekend while the wife is out of town, but it feels like pretty good progress this week.

I'm told my 5.2 motor is delivering by end of this coming week, so I'm trying to get the chassis ready start fitting up a power plant before it gets here. Luckily I have a few days off still before it arrives and once it does I have a motor shop mounting up my power steering pump and dry sump pump so I still have about 10 days to get ready.

I'll probably hold off on installing my brake and clutch reservoirs until I see how the motor fits in the bay. I also have to find a new spot for the battery.

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Wing and fuel cell brackets all painted up to match (roughly)



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Now for some heat shielding
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From summit. Going on pretty well.



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Rivnutted the tank panel on.

I think I might have cross threaded one but that's a problem for another night
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Surfdog57's Gen 3 (#12) build journal.

Heat shield is on and taped

A lot of work, but I think I'll be glad once that exhaust heats up!



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The motor is up on the stand in order to install my dry sump and power steering pump and also take off that goofy looking oil pan!!

Plastic oil pan???


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Head/ valve covers off. Surgery has begun.
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Nice job on the heat shielding Surf.
That engine looks like it means business.

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nice engine indeed.. what are the mods, power targets..?

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nice engine indeed.. what are the mods, power targets..?


Mods are just an Aviaid dry sump setup and power steering pump install

2300 lbs (dry)
580 hp
450 Q

Full aero (stage two in FFR parlance)

...or so.
8500 rpm redline

It's going to be a great car for endurance racing and track days! (My build goals) perhaps pikes peak climb eventually.

Here are some older numbers. I'll post a dyno sheet once I'm all tuned up.

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Even though Jim warned me I ordered the wrong block off plate from Aviaid


New (well correct anyhow) one is in the mail.

Oops.
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Thanks John! We're those mods for the a52XS motor or a regular coyote (or junk yard coyote most recently for you).

I haven't really been looking at 5.2 mods yet. I'll definitely give those ones a look.
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PCV valve and The back of head cooling (just to eliminate any hotspots in #8 and #4 pistons) should apply to any coyote.

The only thing in question is the timing chain sprocket, maybe the 5.2L has a better one to start with. Not that I had problem with the timing chain sprocket, but its an easy thing to change since you are already in there.

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PCV valve and The back of head cooling (just to eliminate any hotspots in #8 and #4 pistons) should apply to any coyote.



The only thing in question is the timing chain sprocket, maybe the 5.2L has a better one to start with. Not that I had problem with the timing chain sprocket, but its an easy thing to change since you are already in there.


I'll look into it. Also I thought 5.2 has better cooking jackets as part of the new block machining. Maybe the cooking issue is addressed??? I'll look into both. Thanks John.
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Surfdog57's Gen 3 (#12) build journal.

KRC power steering systems order
(This stuff is required to power the rack from FFR. Their Pump and brackets won't go on the 5.2 with a dry sump.)
KIT 66302001 cost $179.95 .Includes bracket ,wp pulley and belt.
Pump is PS3 29116811 ,cost $413.99. This is a 9.6 cc aluminum high performance pump.
The pump pulley is a KRC 20019600 ,cost $57.66
and finally a KRC 9141200 bolt on reservoir, cost $97.99.

Whew... pricey. But there you go.

This setup is cool because I'll be able to dial in more or less boost to adjust feel.

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Block ...007 is back together with dry sump hardware install!!!


Just waiting for power steering stuff then I'll drop her in!!
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Surfdog57's Gen 3 (#12) build journal.

In related news. New (current) gear just showed up
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I Just buttoned up the a52xs and now have to pull the cover off again to put on a last minute upgrade.

I've decided to pop on a billet crankshaft gear as per John' recommendation.
http://www.modularmotorsportsracing....roducts_id=580

Should be on tomorrow in time to install the power steering pump. With luck the motor will be in next week and I can get to wiring and fitting oil lines.
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In related news. New (current) gear just showed up
All we know is, he's called the Surfdog

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In attached pic, please us a safety for pulley key. Use a washer and bolt to prevent loss of shaft key and oil system failure.
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