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Like your dash design. May want to look at the placement of the tach and speedo. The reason I went for the hump is so you can actually see them. In the coupe with a regular lay out they are hidden behind the spokes of the steering wheel. Not sure if your design will solve that, or if that's what you wanted to solve.

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Thanks John.. Im not a great artist.. . The proportions on the sketch aren't quite right, the 14" wheel would allow the tach and speedo to be visible inside the rim.. have moved them closer together up around 3 inches in the metal template I made yesterday afternoon.

The hump is a single radius across the drivers side, and rises about 1 1/2" inches above the cross bar level. I also have a height and reach adjustable steering column fitted..


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Chris I finally got that measurement for you. The forward edge of my crank pulley to the X brace is 12.25".

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Awesome.. thanks Mike.. Im 10.75".

LS1 is 24 inches from the rear of the block to the front of the crank pulley.. not sure if the LS3 is the same block or engine mounting point (COG)

Any thoughts..?

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First fibreglass attempt.

Cant locate the HD foam you guys seem to have ready access to in the States, so Ive used paper lined foam board.

The pics are of the piece, pre the second coat of builders bog (aka Bondo or similar as best I can tell) and final finishing.

I was considering two options.

One, to glass over three sides of the piece (ex the bottom plane), trim it off once glassed then glue it to the metal section, before covering with dash underlay and a top skin.

Or

Cover the foamboard piece with the brown packing tape (that the resin doesnt apparently stick to) and use it as a mould, which will then create a hollow piece.. ??

Appreciate any thoughts..

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Personally, I would do the plug -> Mold -> Final piece. It may seem like a lot of work, but you can make the plug in the final shape. Make the mold and then the final piece.

If you make a shape and then apply fiberglass, you will have to guess what to shape minus the fiberglass and then apply fiberglass. Then spend a lot of time shaping the final product. What you will find is the final product might not be what you originally wanted and you will have to fiddle and adjust it until you get it right.

The time spent on both will probably be the same in the long run and you will have a much better final product.

I rather spend time shaping Bondo, than grinding and sanding fiberglass.


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thanks Oxide..

Have taken your advice. Will need to do the glass in two stages due to the overhanging lip on the cowl.

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Engine running - October 2015
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I hope you post some pics of your work. If you have any questions, please ask.


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Well attempt 1 was a fail.. the matting was still a soggy mess after 4 hours.

Carefully measured the resin and catalyst this time (with thanks to my daughters cooking cups and a medicine vial)

Thankfully the matting doesnt stick at all to the brown packing tape. Attempt #2 currently on the bench.. Will post some pics when the fumes die down and Ive had a chance to trim it up..

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Delivery, Sydney - 18 August.
Fabrication and recoating complete - 25 October
Assembly commenced -27 October
Engine installed - 18 December 2014
Engine running - October 2015
First gokart - December 2015

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Well attempt 1 was a fail.. the matting was still a soggy mess after 4 hours.

Carefully measured the resin and catalyst this time (with thanks to my daughters cooking cups and a medicine vial)

Thankfully the matting doesnt stick at all to the brown packing tape. Attempt #2 currently on the bench.. Will post some pics when the fumes die down and Ive had a chance to trim it up..

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Chris,

The result will depend on the quality of the resin that you use. I only use Vipel FO10-TBN-28 . My regular supplier ran out and gave me the lower cost stuff. I measure down to the gram and I had one batch smoke and the next batch took days to cure. And I mixed it exactly the same as the FO10. I took it back and she refunded it. One weekend I needed some resin as I ran out mid work. I ran down to the local boat shop and got some vinyl ester from them. It took 2 days to cure completely. I only use the FO10 now.

And yes, you really need to be careful about proportions. I mix down to the gram.



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Getting there with my fiberglass bits.. had forgotten how smelly, messy and dusty it is to work with.. !!! Have a good respirator (now)...

The second part is a glovebox insert.. I had used foamboard with the intention of removing it once cured... but that didnt work out.. ! I may line this with fiberglass in a couple of stages.. Have some 3mm (1/8"th) ply for any future attempts.

Thanks for the advice..

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Ordered - 28 May, 2014.
Delivery, Sydney - 18 August.
Fabrication and recoating complete - 25 October
Assembly commenced -27 October
Engine installed - 18 December 2014
Engine running - October 2015
First gokart - December 2015

TR6060, LS3 motor, IRS, Willwood brake upgrade, three channel ABS, 17'' replica rims, sat nav / stereo, Motec PDM and keypad, AC, adjustable steering column,
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Awesome.. thanks Mike.. Im 10.75".

LS1 is 24 inches from the rear of the block to the front of the crank pulley.. not sure if the LS3 is the same block or engine mounting point (COG)

Any thoughts..?

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Chris I think you will be very near a 50/50 bias which will be very balanced. I found that every inch the drivetrain is moved shifts the bias nearly 1%. This is a rough rule of thumb as the LS block is lighter and the T56 is heavier. Much of the weight of the T56 is in the rear as compared to the TKO. If you run a 275F/315R tire the car will be close enough to neutral to tune with the suspension. IMO!

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Thanks Mike,

Would have been better to be 48/52, so it had a neutral balance under braking, but we will have to give it a try and see whether understeer is an issue that cant be turned out with suspension geometry / roll bar as well as a little more right foot..

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Fabrication and recoating complete - 25 October
Assembly commenced -27 October
Engine installed - 18 December 2014
Engine running - October 2015
First gokart - December 2015

TR6060, LS3 motor, IRS, Willwood brake upgrade, three channel ABS, 17'' replica rims, sat nav / stereo, Motec PDM and keypad, AC, adjustable steering column,
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I bet with you in the car and a decent fuel load it will be close 52 rear. Minor balance adjustments can be tuned with camber, spring rates, shock settings, and tire pressures. Even with a bunch of rear brake bias the car is stable and controllable while trail braking.

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thanks Mike..

Will be interesting to see..

Drew up a couple of AC ductwork pieces to add to the current backlog for the 3D printer... been waiting about 6 weeks for a replacement control board. These parts cost a few cents to produce, no dust, no fumes.. prob not a lot different in time spent to doing it in fiberglass, although revisions / mods are quick as revising the CAD..

Will be good to move past the AC and finish the dash area.. .

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Fabrication and recoating complete - 25 October
Assembly commenced -27 October
Engine installed - 18 December 2014
Engine running - October 2015
First gokart - December 2015

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MkII glovebox roughed in around midnight last night. Will add dynamat to the back face, line with padding and then leather or vinyl consistent with the finish for the dash and console.

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Fabrication and recoating complete - 25 October
Assembly commenced -27 October
Engine installed - 18 December 2014
Engine running - October 2015
First gokart - December 2015

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Chris,

Now all you need is a pair of gloves!
looks good!

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Cheers John.. all tidied up now and sealed.. Will keep an eye out for a suitable pair..

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Assembly commenced -27 October
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Roughed in the rear sheet metal while waiting for the electrical works to progress. Will leave the fitment of the access hatches to the trimmers once I get to that stage.. Have ordered some tie down anchors for the hatch are VW Touareg / Audi, chromed style recessed D hooks. Will bracket and fit those this week.

Desperate to hear some noise.. (Mike Marshall.. stop posting videos of your gorgeous open exhaust.. ). Have a guy lined up to make up a set of headers and an exhaust for rego purposes as well as a set of pipes for installation post the inspection process (noise regs here are a killer for side pipes).

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Fabrication and recoating complete - 25 October
Assembly commenced -27 October
Engine installed - 18 December 2014
Engine running - October 2015
First gokart - December 2015

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What are you doing for gauges? Thought about doing custom ones?





Since I am in Canada, I went metric along with a different look.


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The quality of your work makes me cry mate.. Seriously.. Im a decent engineer and a very average fabricator..

I got a full set of the metric gauges with my kit.. Autolite I think is the brand. They are not as efficient on space as yours with the chrome bezels. Love the GT40 style dash..

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Fabrication and recoating complete - 25 October
Assembly commenced -27 October
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Engine running - October 2015
First gokart - December 2015

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I am pretty slow at it. SpeedHut is pretty cool when you want to make custom gauges. I did the artwork in Illustrator and had them make them. Here is one of the versions that didn't make it.



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Nice.. I didnt know you could get stuff like that.. will have a look and see if they do dash lights and indicators as well

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I had them make the switch panel for me using the same stuff. Here was version 1. Version 2 is better and covers the whole plate.



I have lights underneath that shine through.


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Nice one.. am tempted to take a trip to the US just to see your work...

Im using a Motec PDM and switch panel for mine.. Reduces wiring, eliminates plug in fuses and gives me an option to use a Clubman style dash in the future.. . Is going to the left of the tacho.

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Engine running - October 2015
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Nice one.. am tempted to take a trip to the US just to see your work...
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I am in Canada. But you are welcome to come visit.

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Now there's a worth while trip. Start with Ron, visit builders in NE, then go to FFR after which you make your way across the US visiting other builders. End up on the West coast where there are quite a few coupes to see,then fly through Hawaii and back to Sydney.
This may give you more ideas expanding your time line and budget though.
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Yeah and if you time the trip right we can go thrash the LS coupe.

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Thanks gents.. is definitely on the to do list.. along with picking up some sweet go fast bits..

"Yeah and if you time the trip right we can go thrash the LS coupe".. Mike, that IS the purpose of the trip.. lol

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Ordered - 28 May, 2014.
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Fabrication and recoating complete - 25 October
Assembly commenced -27 October
Engine installed - 18 December 2014
Engine running - October 2015
First gokart - December 2015

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Update after a few frustrating months.

Had a mate that said he could help with the wiring... he did a fair bit of planning, but unfortunately wasnt real confident with the actual work. So Ive done what I can and have called in someone who can do it right the first time.. (ie, not ME)

I was getting to the stage of prepping for gokart testing, but have gone a fair way backwards now after issues with a clutch pedal that would not actuate once bled.

The engine builder who I entrusted to get the correct parts, well, basically didn't and there was no preload on the thrust bearing (the recommended range is 14-17mm for the hydraulic slave on the TR6060). I have one spacer for the slave cylinder, will have to order a second tomorrow and go from there.

In taking the engine out, Ive unfortunately had to disconnect all of the AC, heating and electrics as well as pull out the dash panels and some of the console sheet metal... is a bit of a mess, but it wont be too hard to put it all back together, but its a decent set back in the build

Best to all..

Cheers

Chris
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Coupe 65 #646

Ordered - 28 May, 2014.
Delivery, Sydney - 18 August.
Fabrication and recoating complete - 25 October
Assembly commenced -27 October
Engine installed - 18 December 2014
Engine running - October 2015
First gokart - December 2015

TR6060, LS3 motor, IRS, Willwood brake upgrade, three channel ABS, 17'' replica rims, sat nav / stereo, Motec PDM and keypad, AC, adjustable steering column,
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