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Cheers Geoff,

Progress this week... walls sheeted and sanded. Have primed the electrical cable run with a HF shielding paint.. now to finish and fit off..

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Ordered - 28 May, 2014.
Delivery, Sydney - 18 August.
Fabrication and recoating complete - 25 October
Assembly commenced -27 October
Engine installed - 18 December 2014
Engine running - October 2015
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One more suggestion for your new man cave...epoxy floor paint! Get the two part epoxy paint, not the water base paint, and also get the clear top coat.

Here's mine just before the start of my build.




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have almost the same set up ready to go.. floor sealer with tint will be going down tomorrow..

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Ordered - 28 May, 2014.
Delivery, Sydney - 18 August.
Fabrication and recoating complete - 25 October
Assembly commenced -27 October
Engine installed - 18 December 2014
Engine running - October 2015
First gokart - December 2015

TR6060, LS3 motor, IRS, Willwood brake upgrade, three channel ABS, 17'' replica rims, sat nav / stereo, Motec PDM and keypad, AC, adjustable steering column,
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Man cave ready for action.. may it never look so clean again..

Racking to go up once the floor sealer hardens...

Coupe still enjoying its time on the Atlantic..

Also started to fiddle with the 3D modelling for the brake lights (after market LED's)... had seen this sort of a mount done in fibreglass to have the light face square to road surface as I have a 3D printer. Just need to confirm if ABS plastic can be painted without any durability issues..??

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Ordered - 28 May, 2014.
Delivery, Sydney - 18 August.
Fabrication and recoating complete - 25 October
Assembly commenced -27 October
Engine installed - 18 December 2014
Engine running - October 2015
First gokart - December 2015

TR6060, LS3 motor, IRS, Willwood brake upgrade, three channel ABS, 17'' replica rims, sat nav / stereo, Motec PDM and keypad, AC, adjustable steering column,
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That should be plenty of room!!! Looks great.

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Just need to confirm if ABS plastic can be painted without any durability issues..??

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Sure can. Steps are : adhesion promoter, primer, top coats.

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thanks Dave.. appreciate it..

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Fabrication and recoating complete - 25 October
Assembly commenced -27 October
Engine installed - 18 December 2014
Engine running - October 2015
First gokart - December 2015

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Duplicate post from the daily activity update... entered here for completeness for my record in a single location..

Bench tested the Bosch ABS controller with wheel sensors connected. Am using a new BA Falcon (2002 - 2005 model) Bosch controller from a Ute, with no traction control (hence no body control module or ECU interface).

Was able to get the solenoids to cycle at start up and the ABS status light to cycle on for 2 seconds as well, but the fault indication light would not turn on consistently when one of the sensors was disconnected. No idea why this is.

I have double checked the pin outs and the wiring diagram, these are all ok. Will try again with an extra switch for the master cylinder and brake light in circuit.

Am wondering if there is a connection to the CAN module that is required or some sort of initialization sequence that it needs to run through that is not explicitly detailed in the factory service manual (as these refer to the use of the diagnostics controllers that plug in to make the fault codes visible).

From what I can deduce.. the EEC-B module is the only device which may be required to handshake with the ABS controller on start up... wiring diagram added.

Look forward to any thoughts or experiences.

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Ordered - 28 May, 2014.
Delivery, Sydney - 18 August.
Fabrication and recoating complete - 25 October
Assembly commenced -27 October
Engine installed - 18 December 2014
Engine running - October 2015
First gokart - December 2015

TR6060, LS3 motor, IRS, Willwood brake upgrade, three channel ABS, 17'' replica rims, sat nav / stereo, Motec PDM and keypad, AC, adjustable steering column,
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Progress....

Added a couple of lights and switches and created a repeatable test scenario which replicates the Mustang video test, loaded in the Roadster area.. Coupe 65 Build Photos by cboys64 | Photobucket

For completeness I think I will need to add the diagnostics port.. error on the controller brake line ports noted.. For those watching the video closely, Pin 21 should really be termed the 'brake fail' input as it monitors the ABS wiring and the master cylinder fluid level / pressure switches.

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Ordered - 28 May, 2014.
Delivery, Sydney - 18 August.
Fabrication and recoating complete - 25 October
Assembly commenced -27 October
Engine installed - 18 December 2014
Engine running - October 2015
First gokart - December 2015

TR6060, LS3 motor, IRS, Willwood brake upgrade, three channel ABS, 17'' replica rims, sat nav / stereo, Motec PDM and keypad, AC, adjustable steering column,
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Motor dynoed during the week.. 6.2 liter LS3 put out 594 bph, with headers only.. will clearly loose a bit here and there with the exhaust, air intake and filters. Have bolted the transmission on, awaiting the chassis to fit then the fun can commence..


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Ordered - 28 May, 2014.
Delivery, Sydney - 18 August.
Fabrication and recoating complete - 25 October
Assembly commenced -27 October
Engine installed - 18 December 2014
Engine running - October 2015
First gokart - December 2015

TR6060, LS3 motor, IRS, Willwood brake upgrade, three channel ABS, 17'' replica rims, sat nav / stereo, Motec PDM and keypad, AC, adjustable steering column,
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Anti Roll bars

Have seen them done on a few cars in a few different ways, most often on the front end.

Am interested in views as to how necessary they are or otherwise and whether anyone has specs re the lever lengths and torsion rating of the front and rear torsion bars..?

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Ordered - 28 May, 2014.
Delivery, Sydney - 18 August.
Fabrication and recoating complete - 25 October
Assembly commenced -27 October
Engine installed - 18 December 2014
Engine running - October 2015
First gokart - December 2015

TR6060, LS3 motor, IRS, Willwood brake upgrade, three channel ABS, 17'' replica rims, sat nav / stereo, Motec PDM and keypad, AC, adjustable steering column,
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Questions questions..

Seat belts.. I need to fit a set of lap / sash belts here and needed to get the brackets / mounting points welded in by a certified welder as part of the RHD conversion and chassis mod process, before I can actually start my build.

From what I can see, where belts are used in the US, the 5 point is the most common solution.

Am hoping someone with a car can advise if there is space beside or slightly behind the back of the seat to be able to mount the belt retraction mechanism..? (in its conventional position near to the base of the B pillar), Or whether the retracter needs to be mounted at the height of the current seat belt fastening rail.. which appears to be 1/2 - 2/3rds of the way up the back of seats.

Look forward to your advice...

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Ordered - 28 May, 2014.
Delivery, Sydney - 18 August.
Fabrication and recoating complete - 25 October
Assembly commenced -27 October
Engine installed - 18 December 2014
Engine running - October 2015
First gokart - December 2015

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Hi Chris

I don't know all the details of your build plan (powdercoated frame or not, mockup first?) but I think I know what you are trying to do with the seatbelts. In terms of space and position, it will depend on the type of seat you decide to use. I would say that the only place to mount the outer belt anchor is to the floor frame. Anything else will require significant modifications or trimming.

These types of questions is the reason why I decided to build my car as a mockup first, Powdercoat second and then do the final reassembly. I have had every piece in and out multiple times. Sounds like you may need the seats in first and go from there.

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Thanks Marc,

I have the FFR high back AL seats to start with.. but will likely re trim or replace them. Was trying to get ahead on avoidable delays with the welder.

The frame has been powder coated at FFR, as I was concerned about corrosion for the two months its been on the boat.

Is good advice.. fit everything up.. pull it down and powdercoat the lot ..

Will need to chill for another week or two and as they say in the classics, "...build the bridge as you walk it"

Do you have any insights on anti roll bars..?

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Ordered - 28 May, 2014.
Delivery, Sydney - 18 August.
Fabrication and recoating complete - 25 October
Assembly commenced -27 October
Engine installed - 18 December 2014
Engine running - October 2015
First gokart - December 2015

TR6060, LS3 motor, IRS, Willwood brake upgrade, three channel ABS, 17'' replica rims, sat nav / stereo, Motec PDM and keypad, AC, adjustable steering column,
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Chris, I think we call "anti-roll bars" "anti-sway bars" or just "sway bars".

Try this google search >>>>

site:ffcars.com/forums/21-ffr-type-65-coupe sway bar

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Questions questions..

Seat belts.. I need to fit a set of lap / sash belts here and needed to get the brackets / mounting points welded in by a certified welder as part of the RHD conversion and chassis mod process, before I can actually start my build.

From what I can see, where belts are used in the US, the 5 point is the most common solution.

Am hoping someone with a car can advise if there is space beside or slightly behind the back of the seat to be able to mount the belt retraction mechanism..? (in its conventional position near to the base of the B pillar), Or whether the retracter needs to be mounted at the height of the current seat belt fastening rail.. which appears to be 1/2 - 2/3rds of the way up the back of seats.

Look forward to your advice...

With thanks

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Hi Chris,

Your engineer should be able to advise you on placement.

Mounting the retractors on the centreline of the car is a common solution for cobras and clubbies. Many examples of the retractor being mounted on the 'parcel shelf' exist. My roadster has the retractors mounted on the boot floor. What does Component Cars say on this subject?

Have only ridden in Chris Crum's very nice Coupe, harness only.

BTW has your engineer approved the seats/mounting?

Mocking up the car first is a good idea especially if it's a first build. Get the engineer to approve it and then put it together properly.

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thanks Geoff,

Will follow your advice. The engineer I am using has seen a few FFR's here, so is familiar with the seat mounting. CCA have not been terribly engaging to date.

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Ordered - 28 May, 2014.
Delivery, Sydney - 18 August.
Fabrication and recoating complete - 25 October
Assembly commenced -27 October
Engine installed - 18 December 2014
Engine running - October 2015
First gokart - December 2015

TR6060, LS3 motor, IRS, Willwood brake upgrade, three channel ABS, 17'' replica rims, sat nav / stereo, Motec PDM and keypad, AC, adjustable steering column,
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My Coupe has landed and is clearing Customs.. fingers crossed for delivery on Friday.. if not early next week..

I had a chat today with a guy who bought in 6 - 8 Coupes a few years back, I understand they were the Type 1 version.

Whilst being very happy with the GTM which is now his daily driver, he noted 3 things in particular.

One was the spring rate.. at around 700 or so as delivered, reckoned it rattled his back teeth.. had changed them out for around 400's after a few months along with some adjustable shocks.

The second was water leaks.. a lot of this was apparently pre the upgrade to glass for the rear. Is there any known issue with the doors and their sealing..?

The third was flexing / rattling of the AL paneling. I have a few packs of Dynamat Extreme (butal / Al insulation and noise mat), as it seemed to be the best available here. I have seen an upgrade for the firewall advertised for the Mk IV, but nothing in relation to the Coupe.

Am interested to hear of any experiences, comments and of course, potential solutions that may be about.

Also found some neat LED tail lights, which will mee the Aussie design rules.. sneak peak on Photo Bucket..

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Ordered - 28 May, 2014.
Delivery, Sydney - 18 August.
Fabrication and recoating complete - 25 October
Assembly commenced -27 October
Engine installed - 18 December 2014
Engine running - October 2015
First gokart - December 2015

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Congrats Chris!

I think the adjustable shock will do more than springs.

Here is what I did for taillights. They are almost too bright!
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thanks Mike..

I expect these, with the same wiring configuration will do an adequate job as well..

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Delivery, Sydney - 18 August.
Fabrication and recoating complete - 25 October
Assembly commenced -27 October
Engine installed - 18 December 2014
Engine running - October 2015
First gokart - December 2015

TR6060, LS3 motor, IRS, Willwood brake upgrade, three channel ABS, 17'' replica rims, sat nav / stereo, Motec PDM and keypad, AC, adjustable steering column,
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Well the time is drawing near here.. after the shipping agent in Sydney has sat on the cargo post customs clearance for nearly three weeks, delivery of the crate will be Monday now.

I have a bunch of components, and a few more stuck in places unknown for the moment.. is a hard process to rush on this side of the world.. lol

I was looking at injector stacks, as they give the engine a fantastic classic look over the plenum that is standard issue with an LS3. I'm advised by a local guy that (as of 5 - 6 years ago), they were good for 60% - 100% throttle application, but not really suitable for street use. This was due to the lineal actuation of the throttle bodies (8 x 2" butterflies opening at once), throwing the fuel air mix out completely at small openings.

Theoretically its clearly possible via software or an elliptical cam to change the pedal to throttle opening ratio to reduce this effect early in the pedal travel, but not necessarily eliminate it.

Does anyone have any experience with these injection units they can share..?

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Fabrication and recoating complete - 25 October
Assembly commenced -27 October
Engine installed - 18 December 2014
Engine running - October 2015
First gokart - December 2015

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thanks Gordon.. will look forward to your advice as discussed.

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Fabrication and recoating complete - 25 October
Assembly commenced -27 October
Engine installed - 18 December 2014
Engine running - October 2015
First gokart - December 2015

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Well my Coupe was finally delivered today.. Checking stuff off left and right as we speak.

I was expecting a RED chassis, consistent with those I had seen from recent type 2 builds, but its powder coated black.

I know this will be the most basis question of the year, but can someone please advise if there is a difference between the red and black chassis, and whether BLACK is the most current version..?

With thanks

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Delivery, Sydney - 18 August.
Fabrication and recoating complete - 25 October
Assembly commenced -27 October
Engine installed - 18 December 2014
Engine running - October 2015
First gokart - December 2015

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Chassis from FFR is Gloss Black Powder Coat.

The Gen II frames front suspension "X" is round tube not square.

The Gen II bodys have a Red Gel coat.
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Thanks Gary... will be cutting up the firewall and engine mount brackets tomorrow..

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Ordered - 28 May, 2014.
Delivery, Sydney - 18 August.
Fabrication and recoating complete - 25 October
Assembly commenced -27 October
Engine installed - 18 December 2014
Engine running - October 2015
First gokart - December 2015

TR6060, LS3 motor, IRS, Willwood brake upgrade, three channel ABS, 17'' replica rims, sat nav / stereo, Motec PDM and keypad, AC, adjustable steering column,
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Like Gary said, the standard powder coat from FFR is black. You can order the chassis uncoated to get the color you want put on it. The only red chassis right now is on Shawnski's and my Coupe.

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Thanks John,

My Coupe (re)build has started..

- New engine mounts, moved about 1" forward with the T6060 gear box
- Swap out steering rack and mounts
- Add 50mm sq down tubes from the A pillars
- Re-position rear gear box mount
- New master cylinder, booster and pedal box mounts
- Replicate footwell curved tube, relocate the forward cross brace to increase footwell space and add vertical reinforcing plate all round

Pics attached... one week at a time...

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Coupe 65 #646

Ordered - 28 May, 2014.
Delivery, Sydney - 18 August.
Fabrication and recoating complete - 25 October
Assembly commenced -27 October
Engine installed - 18 December 2014
Engine running - October 2015
First gokart - December 2015

TR6060, LS3 motor, IRS, Willwood brake upgrade, three channel ABS, 17'' replica rims, sat nav / stereo, Motec PDM and keypad, AC, adjustable steering column,
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Well progress has been steady with the fabrication over the past week or two... ended up having to make a new pedal box to suit the revised MC mounting brackets (required to fit the booster that is matched to the ABS.. and also the RHD conversion). Most of the parts are now fabricated / tacked, just the new mounts for the adjustable steering column and that section can be all welded up along with the new side impact bars and bracing.

New engine mounts also need to be completed, the rubbers are on back order.

Pics to follow when its not a collection of bits of tube on the floor.. .

Cheers

Chris

Coupe 65 #646

Ordered - 28 May, 2014.
Delivery, Sydney - 18 August.
Fabrication and recoating complete - 25 October
Assembly commenced -27 October
Engine installed - 18 December 2014
Engine running - October 2015
First gokart - December 2015

TR6060, LS3 motor, IRS, Willwood brake upgrade, three channel ABS, 17'' replica rims, sat nav / stereo, Motec PDM and keypad, AC, adjustable steering column,
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Extended wheelbase

Am wondering as I cut and welded my way quiet extensively through my chassis (in part to improve its rigidity but mostly to set up the components I want to fit) about an extended wheelbase version.

The uprights which come from the side rails to the 4" x 2" cross member behind the seat mounting position are unfortunately upright, rather than angled back at around 20 degrees, which would make use of the space between the current cross rail and the suspension mounts, for a somewhat reclined seating position.

Am considering adding two inches from just behind the rear chassis rail cross tube, which would not impact any of the roll bar, wheel arch or suspension mounts.

Clearly the roof, sills and doors would need to be extended accordingly, which arent a great issue.. getting the Coupe onto a jig and a rotisserie seems to be the biggest concern.

Any thoughts or experiences with other members in this mod.. impacts on handling from a change of this magnitude to the wheelbase / track ratio..?

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Coupe 65 #646

Ordered - 28 May, 2014.
Delivery, Sydney - 18 August.
Fabrication and recoating complete - 25 October
Assembly commenced -27 October
Engine installed - 18 December 2014
Engine running - October 2015
First gokart - December 2015

TR6060, LS3 motor, IRS, Willwood brake upgrade, three channel ABS, 17'' replica rims, sat nav / stereo, Motec PDM and keypad, AC, adjustable steering column,
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