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Hydraulic clutch-opinions?

I am almost at the stage of mounting the clutch and transmission and I figure there is no better or more convenient time to add the hydraulic clutch, but I am curious what everyone's experience is with it. Any opinions, for or against, are welcome.

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I bought the slave cylinder kit from Daze: https://www.dazecars.com/dazed/TestT5kit.html

Then I got a wilwood master cylinder from Summit and a pre-made hydraulic line from them too, and an extra reservoir from FFR.

Wasnít very expensive to do, and the wilwood pedal box from FFR was designed for a 3rd master cylinder so everything just bolted up essentially. I never messed with the cable clutch so I have no experience to compare the two, but the hudraulic clutch feels exactly like the one in my daily driver jeep.


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I have had issues with my clutch in the past and wanted to go hydraulic and as a last effort bought a really good cable from Maximum Motorsports. It’s like butter now. Can’t see how hydraulic could be any easier and I have driven many with one.

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The slave cylinder ends is relatively easy to switch over. I think the tough part will be the MC end. Per Keyser, it looks like later FFRs are set up for it. I am not sure about yours though. When my 8 yrs old cable gave up 2 years ago I installed an oem Ford cable. Not sure how my Spec2+ clutch is compared to others but the clutch effort is just fine for a 71 yr old non athletic type.

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I put 42,000 miles on my Cobra with a cable. I had to adjust it a couple of times when the cable stretched.

I have several old hyd slaves in the back room that I replaced on other Cobras.


I like a cable

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Hydraulic Clutch

I did the same thing. Works great and a super simple design. I used a Tilton Master but same experience with the Wilwood pedal box.

I used a variation of this kit for a TKO600 -- https://www.dazecars.com/dazed/Test3550bracket.html

Great thing about this kit is that the slave cylinder is a common stock part. You will always be able to find a replacement. https://www.dormanproducts.com/p-33627-cs37793.aspx



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I bought the slave cylinder kit from Daze: https://www.dazecars.com/dazed/TestT5kit.html

Then I got a wilwood master cylinder from Summit and a pre-made hydraulic line from them too, and an extra reservoir from FFR.

Wasn’t very expensive to do, and the wilwood pedal box from FFR was designed for a 3rd master cylinder so everything just bolted up essentially. I never messed with the cable clutch so I have no experience to compare the two, but the hudraulic clutch feels exactly like the one in my daily driver jeep.


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As I have commented on many threads, I designed and built my own external slave system that works with the Fox pedals and a SPEC Mk3 clutch. It has smooth easy effort, and hes been perfect since I put it together in 2005.

I am one for the fluid side!

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I am using a Tilton hydraulic clutch release bearing and I couldnít be happier with it.

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I had a cable clutch for 21,000 miles. Mine was the old design with the offset quadrant. For anyone that still has that, take this as a warning. The offset torque ruined my Wilwood pedal box. It ovaled the hole in the box that holds the pedal shaft. No fun changing a pedal box in a complete car.

Back to the subject. The cable was OK, very stiff. My clutched engaged closer to the floor than I liked even with some pre-load, but there is no real way to adjust that. My Ford cable (used the FFR one as a spare) was starting to fray a little a the quadrant. Going to change the cable is when I found the slop in the pedal.

I changed to a hydraulic setup. It is a little bit lighter. More linear. It has WAAAAY better feel. I was surprised at that. It also engages about half way up which is perfect, especially when autocrossing or on the track where you shift fast. I also have adjustability if needed. So far, I love it.

I used a Dazecars salve cylinder (some OE type part, with a nice amount of throw), and his adjustable pushrod. I made my own bracket and used a Wilwood master.

I would definitely go hydraulic if I were doing it again.

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I have fortes hydraulic setup and it’s great, I’ve driven a FFR wilwood cable setup and actually struggled as it just didn’t have nearly as nice a feel.
Very happy with my decision, so far. Knock on wood.

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