Has anyone fabricated/purchased/used a transmission fluid cooler - FFCars.com : Factory Five Racing Discussion Forum
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 05-28-2019, 03:36 PM Thread Starter
FFCobra Craftsman
FFCars Major
 
Chepsk8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Easton PA
Posts: 6,067
Garage
Has anyone fabricated/purchased/used a transmission fluid cooler

Thinking about using a transmission fluid cooler (ATF). I have a T-5Z which has been great, change the fluid the start of every season, but looking at extra insurance.

Has anyone done this, what did they use, how did they install?


FFR5148K MkII Roadster, 331 CI 430 HP w/ FITECH Fuel Injection, 3-link, disc brakes, SN95 Cobra Front brakes, FR500 17" Wheels. Electric steering from Saturn VUE. QA1 Double Adjust shocks on all corners. Still mostly Gel-Coat Grey! Now with roll cage and more track stuff, wrecked, beaten, blown-up, man-handled, cut up, butchered, Freaky body mods, sat on by HOOTERS girls, still barely street legal.
Chepsk8 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old 05-28-2019, 04:11 PM
FFCobra Craftsman
 
CraigS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Manassas, Va
Posts: 21,642
What would you use for a pump? I did a diff cooler on a racecar once following instructions from someone I trusted. Aimed the return so it flowed right onto the ring gear as near the pinion as possible. I wonder where you would want the return to flow to given the trans has so many more gears.


FFR 5353K, 408W, TKO 500, 2015 IRS w/ 315 gear, Breeze QA1 DA coilovers front and rear, APE hardtop, Forte front swaybar
CraigS is offline  
post #3 of 13 (permalink) Old 05-28-2019, 05:26 PM Thread Starter
FFCobra Craftsman
FFCars Major
 
Chepsk8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Easton PA
Posts: 6,067
Garage
Would use the bottom plug as the suction, side as the return

FFR5148K MkII Roadster, 331 CI 430 HP w/ FITECH Fuel Injection, 3-link, disc brakes, SN95 Cobra Front brakes, FR500 17" Wheels. Electric steering from Saturn VUE. QA1 Double Adjust shocks on all corners. Still mostly Gel-Coat Grey! Now with roll cage and more track stuff, wrecked, beaten, blown-up, man-handled, cut up, butchered, Freaky body mods, sat on by HOOTERS girls, still barely street legal.
Chepsk8 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 13 (permalink) Old 05-28-2019, 05:50 PM
Senior Member
FFCars Master Craftsman
 
BEAR-AvHISTORY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 2,310
Agree on using the existing threaded openings. My thought was where would you locate the pump & heat exchanger?


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Kevin

Raleigh, NC. MK-IV 8243 Coyote (2014)/TKO-600
Delivered - 2/7/14
Initial Engine Start - 11/12/14
Go Cart - 11/22/14
Chassis to Body Shop - 11/24/14
Body Painted - 1/8/15
Body on Chassis - 1/28/15
Dyno Tune - 2/19/15
Trailer home - 3/7/15
NCDMV inspection - PASSED 3/16/15
Plate - "COYOTE" Black/Yellow NC-1965 - 3/25/15
BEAR-AvHISTORY is offline  
post #5 of 13 (permalink) Old 05-28-2019, 06:45 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Manahawkin, NJ
Posts: 196
Never knew they existed so I looked them up. Found this link which is pretty informative. The video at the bottom of the page gives some scale to the size of the pump (couldnt find dimensions listed anywhere). Looks do-able mounted in the tunnel somewhere as its a pretty compact pump. Also has a filter to keep the garbage from recirculating:

https://www.driftmotion.com/Driftmot...t-p/dm3561.htm

MK IV # 8639 Delivered June 2015 - SBF 347 w/450hp, FITECH 30002, Levy SA T5, 3 Link w/ 3.55's, cobra discs, manual brakes/steering
Keysergogo is offline  
post #6 of 13 (permalink) Old 05-28-2019, 09:13 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Heart of Dixie
Posts: 255
Ford offered trans and rear gear coolers on their 13/14 Shelby GT500s.
They also said, not needed unless you plan on tracking the car.

20th Anniversary Roadster, A50XS Coyote Eng, TKO 600
railroad is online now  
post #7 of 13 (permalink) Old 05-28-2019, 11:37 PM
FFCobra Craftsman
 
CraigS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Manassas, Va
Posts: 21,642
Quote:
Originally Posted by railroad View Post
Ford offered trans and rear gear coolers on their 13/14 Shelby GT500s.
They also said, not needed unless you plan on tracking the car.
There ya go. Probably pricey buying from Ford but could provide good info on how to go about it on a similar trans.

FFR 5353K, 408W, TKO 500, 2015 IRS w/ 315 gear, Breeze QA1 DA coilovers front and rear, APE hardtop, Forte front swaybar
CraigS is offline  
post #8 of 13 (permalink) Old 05-31-2019, 07:09 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 129
I'm planning for the option of a diff cooler, but will check temps on the diff and trans, TKO-600. But have never seen the need for a trans cooler and don't know anyone running one, doesn't mean that there wouldn't be a benefit.

Just as a suggestion, it wouldn't be that hard to buy a gauge and install it in the drain plug hole, an adapter may be required. Then you could evaluate the temps during your hard use times.

I doubt that street use or even HPDE will get the temps to the point of real concern. Now racing, well, that's a different story. There are videos of John George running the new Coupe; he was showing IRS temps of 350+ in the 2015 Mustang IRS. Not sure if that was with or without a diff cooler. He did show a diff cooler in some of his build notes.

Jim
Jim1855 is online now  
post #9 of 13 (permalink) Old 06-14-2019, 12:13 AM
FFCobra Fanatic
FFCars Craftsman
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 1,033
This is what I used for trans and real coolers:

Tilton Pump

Bart Carter
FFR 4001
Bart Carter is offline  
post #10 of 13 (permalink) Old 06-14-2019, 04:05 AM
Senior Member
 
Bob Cowan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 17,646
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bart Carter View Post
This is what I used for trans and real coolers:

Tilton Pump
I used one of these pumps for engine oil. I had a pick up on the side of the pan that went to the cooler, then the pump, and then back to the pan. During track use, I never saw a pan temp greater than about 200* or so.

The failure rate was pretty high. And when they fail, they leak. When I contacted Tilton about the failure, they told me it was not designed for hot oil.


.boB "Iron Man"
NASA Rocky Mountain TTU #42
HPDE Instructor
FFR 3691K: Dart 427W, Momar 8 Stack EFI, 600'ish hp, TKO, 3.55 TruTrac, Red with Ghost Flames. Gone, but not forgotten.
BDR 1642: Coyote, 6 speed auto, Edelbrock Blower

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Bob Cowan is offline  
post #11 of 13 (permalink) Old 06-15-2019, 12:25 AM
FFCobra Captain
 
Dan Babb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Posts: 11,657
If you're not running power steering, how about using a power steering pump and a cooler. It would handle the RPMs and probably be ok with the fluid temps and you wouldn't have to rig brackets or mounting locations.

Dan


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

FFR5857
349cu.in with Mass-Flo EFI, Edelbrock Performer Alum. Heads and other go-fast goodies
PS/PB/AC
Dan Babb is offline  
post #12 of 13 (permalink) Old 07-15-2019, 11:29 AM
Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 6
What problem you are facing? I am running this, I bought it from Reecoupons, and its quite working well, well tell me about your one.
saraluck9090 is offline  
post #13 of 13 (permalink) Old 07-15-2019, 04:15 PM
Senior Member
FFCars Craftsman
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Kansas, USA
Posts: 881
I have two transmission coolers from Ford 7.3 trucks. Were removed and replaced with much larger coolers. They would be perfect for tranny or rear end coolers. They have brackets attached that could be bent to bolt to whatever needed. Large enough maybe wouldn't need a fan.

I'll send them to your door for $75 in conus. PM me if you are interested or want pics and send your email.
vector1 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Bookmarks

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the FFCars.com : Factory Five Racing Discussion Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in











Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome

 

Welcome to FFCars! The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the FFCars.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Factory Five Racing, Inc. or Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by FFCars.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Factory Five Racing, Inc. or Ford Motor Company for any purpose. "FFR", "Factory Five", "Factory Five Racing", and the Factory Five Racing logo are registered trademarks of Factory Five Racing, Inc. FFCars.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting the FFCars.com Forum dedicated to Factory Five.