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I LOVE my little 302

This little, totally rebuilt, (1990 Mustang GT) now producing 345 HP. Is perfect for my little FFCobra.
It now has 12,000 miles on rebuilt.IT, always 'starts'. IT, always runs COOL ! .IT, with driver and 1/2 tank of gas weighs 2,200 lbs.It,weighs a lot less than a 427....Its,eng. compartment placement, is much farther to the rear than a big block would be,Giving the car Great handling .
Oh, and did I say.I love my little 302

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And according to this 0-60 calculator(coming in at 3.355 sec.) .Its as fast as a -so called- "modern super car" .Costing many ,MANY times more.
>> 0-60 mph Calculator for Cars

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Looks nice and fast, so what cam are you running? Or is that the secret to your hp?

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Your car would do 0-60 mph in about 4 seconds in the real world and run mid to high 12's in the 1/4 mile. Still plenty quick though, just not supercar quick. Glad to hear your driving and enjoying it.

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Your car would do 0-60 mph in about 4 seconds in the real world and run mid to high 12's in the 1/4 mile. Still plenty quick though, just not supercar quick. Glad to hear your driving and enjoying it.
Under 4 seconds ,Ill take it
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Hey Recon -

What type of lift do you have your car on?
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When I took the 302 apart for #2335 in 2000 with 165k miles, it Still had the Hone marks in the cylinders (and it had never been apart). I used 2.02 Trickflow heads, Roller Rockers, E303 Cam, 24# injectors and a larger throttle body. For 17,000 miles I ran the Heck out of it, held it against the Rev Limiter and raced Vipers to Mini Vans. It Never Broke and it never Lost. I've always been a Chevy man but the 302's are Tough Ass Engines.

I'm running a Modular in #7787 so far so good.
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In 2002 my car originally had a 302 with about 300hp. It was a good amount of power for a street car. You could always floor it and not have to worry about spinning at 80 or even 100 mph. It was fun.
For the track, 600hp seems just right

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One thing on the kwik-lift.
You need a floor jack that will go UP 21". Most jacks wont. 21" high is needed
So the rear spring loaded legs on the lift will come down and lock into position.
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This little, totally rebuilt, (1990 Mustang GT) now producing 345 HP. Is perfect for my little FFCobra.
It now has 12,000 miles on rebuilt.IT, always 'starts'. IT, always runs COOL ! .IT, with driver and 1/2 tank of gas weighs 2,200 lbs.It,weighs a lot less than a 427....Its,eng. compartment placement, is much farther to the rear than a big block would be,Giving the car Great handling .
Oh, and did I say.I love my little 302
This sounds like a great engine for these cars. I did not see your answer on what cam you are running.

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This sounds like a great engine for these cars. I did not see your answer on what cam you are running.
If I remember correctly,I think its a Crane S238, mechanical roller cam.This cam will push the 302 up to, and over, 400 HP.
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400HP NA?! I have a 302 as well, love it ... But nowhere near that!
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400HP NA?! I have a 302 as well, love it ... But nowhere near that!
Many have done it.One such example >> Building 400hp Into A 5.0L Small-Block Engine - Muscle Mustangs & Fast Fords Magazine
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My original donor build 5.0 started with about 200,000 miles, and all I did was replace head gaskets and convert to carb. Ran great for 4 years, even got me used to the car on track with lower power. Tough engine!

Finally, it just wore out, would not hold oil pressure when hot. One heck of a motor!

Beat on a crate 5.0 for many years, 345 HP, a great next step. Now have a 331, what a motor!

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If I remember, that junk yd motor blew up after 20/22 pulls? I've had a lot of 302/5.0 motor combos from 202rwhp(bone stock) to close to 350ish(pro built) rwhp. Like they say, "If they run strong, they don't run long." 400 fwhp is about 340ish rwhp. Not bad for a junk yd build. Just saying
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I like your 302 and your license plate, too! but I'm also partial to blue.
Really enjoying my +20k miles so far!





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Thanks MPTeck.
I see your in MO.We have a 'old' gas station here,(Way out in the boonies) that looks Exactly like the one you posted.
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I Love mine too! Perfect for me!
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I have come to the same conclusion. At first, I was thinking that 300 something HP was not going to be enough. Since I only drive the Cobra on the street, I am finding that the 302 with heads and a cam is a great engine. My engine issues so far have been minor. The Gen2 alternator locked up and broke the belt. I installed a Gen3 and could not be happier. The other issue was with over heating caused by a short in the electric fan. Once I rewired the fan, I have been dead on correct for temp. I am also pretty impressed with the 24+ MPG I get on freeway trips.

The only minor thing is that with the cam, I have low torque at idle. This makes stop and go traffic a fun challenge.
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Our little local car club (of 60 members) as just picked up its 4th Cobra owner .Three of the four are Factory Five cars
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I love small block also. I had one in my Cobra that could keep up with anything.

Just bought a 66 Fairlane with a 390. First big block car I have ever owned. Driven a lot of my buddies BBF Cobra and love them.

I just bought /traded on a 363 Dart block. Now I have a dilemma. A GT 40 with a small block that would spin 7,500 would sound awesome. We will see.

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One thing on the kwik-lift.
You need a floor jack that will go UP 21". Most jacks wont. 21" high is needed
So the rear spring loaded legs on the lift will come down and lock into position.
It also needs to drop very low to get under the lift point. I have a kwik lift and the wrong jack (guessing 20" lift) which makes raising/lowering a 2 step process. Someday I will upgrade the jack but I bought it well before I bought the lift and can't justify 2.
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