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Old 12-27-2008, 10:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Flaming River Rack

I have a MKII with the unpowered power steering rack. It is very hard to steer. I purchased a Flaming River 15:1 rack to replace the power rack. I have the power rack off the car. In addition to needing some minor fabrication to match up the steering shaft, there is another problem. Setting the racks side-by-side, the FR does not have enough threads on the inner tie rod end to allow anything like correct alignment using the tie rod ends from the power rack. I would assume I need different outer tie rod ends.

In looking at photos of the FFR manual rack (part# 12619), the tie rod ends on this rack appear to be the type that I need. Does anyone know what application they are from?

Thanks for your help.

Tom

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I'm thinking of doing the exact same swap as you are on my mkII and haven't heard of that. On the Breeze auto site (see list of advertisers) he has longer tie rod ends with some reference to length issues. He also has steering shafts with u-joints to adapt to manual rack. Try posting this thread in the general discussion form maybe you'll get more responses. There seems to be more people there.
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Old 01-26-2009, 01:58 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I finished the change to the Flaming River manual (3 turns lock-to-lock) rack this weekend. The difference is huge! The car steers easily now. It was a bear to steer before. Who came up with the goofy idea of using a depowered rack?? I used the manual rack tie rod ends and I still have toe-out. I will either cut the outer tie rod ends or try the shorter pin drive tie rod ends.

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Old 01-26-2009, 02:01 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Mike Forte sells a 15:1 aftermarket rack that works great in some instances may be too long depending on your rack location(simple mod with cut off wheel if necessary)
much less expensive than the FR unit and is otherwise identical.

http://www.fortesparts.com/catalogDisplay.cfm?cat=47
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Someone with More upper body strength.
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Just finished my swap to Unisteer 15:1 from Fortes this week and seems to be a big improvement in steering effort but mostly in steering response because of the solid rack bushings. I had to retain the rag joint (because fortes sent the wrong part) so it should improve even further. However, I noticed that because of the off set rack bushings (to help with the bump steer) the steering shaft is going to need to be longer. Anyone else have experience with this?
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