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post #91 of 142 (permalink) Old 10-31-2016, 06:21 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the link. I just ordered the tool.

I'm going with the Cragar Eliminator wheels in a 17". They come in two backspace options (4.5 & 4.75).



Not 100% sure on the tire size I want to use yet.
I figure I will find a used tire store around and get a couple of testers to check with.


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Going to be a cool project Dan. I REALLY like the GT350's, my favorite Mustang!

For 17" tires, I don't know what width you are planning, but I just replaced my front tires with the Mickey Thompson Street Comps and really like the look and performance so far. Put over 500 miles on them at the end of October, crusing the NW Arkansas Ozarks and I really liked them. Haven't tried them in the rain, but I hear they are very good there too.
I know they have limited sizes though, 245, 275, & 315.
I just think an Iconic American Muscle car should be rolling on American Tires (I know they are Cooper and made off-shore somewhere).



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Looking good Dan.

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Looking great Dan. Nice wheels! That would be my second dream car. Have to finish the Cobra First.
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Rented the WheelFit tool from 1320wheels.com and did some fitting over the last 2 days.

With the car lowered how I want, a 245/45/17 with a setting if 8" wide and 4 1/2" backspace didn't work. Even if I rolled the fender lip, it would still seem really close.

The wheels I want only come in a 4 1/2" BS, so not too many options.

I test fit a 225/45/17 with 7" - 4 1/2" BS and it looks better in the back and is ok up front too. Still need to roll the back fender a bit, but not as much.

The 225 doesn't look too bad width wise. I think the original wheels were quite a bit smaller, right?

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Also bought a Lokar eBrake setup.

Saw some posts online on how to make that work on the car, so I will start mocking that up while I wait to see if anyone runs a Black Friday sale for wheels.



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If you have not yet upholstered those fox seats yet, be sure to inspect the backs for cracks in the frames down near the hinge points. It is a notorious problem that can be easily fixed before the upholstery goes on.
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Sweet ride Dan!!! Very sweet!

Have you had to sell any human body parts, or family members yet to fund the build? Ha.

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Thanks Derald...it will be a long time before I'm ready and will definitely have them checked out.

Rob...still have all of my body parts. So far, I'm doing OK with the budget on this one. Buying some used parts and hunting down good deals for the new stuff is helping a lot. I just bought the wheels I'm using today. Found them new on eBay for $469 for a set of 4...I had budgeted $800...good score for the day.

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Seems like a heck of a deal.

Have you picked out a painter yet?

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Might be a little late but have you checked out the various wide body options out there. Those open up a whole world of better wheel/tire options to lay more rubber down.

MustangDepot.com has some less expensive options.

Maier Racing (maierracing.com) offers the Italian Monster Kit that looks a lot like Ken Block's nutty 1965 Ford Mustang Hoonicorn.
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For those with deep pockets, Ringbrothers makes an absolutely bonkers Carbon Fiber 1965-1966 Mustang widebody kit.
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From what I've read in your build these might not work into your style or budget but food for thought.


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Really trying to keep my car looking like a GT350...but with the larger 17" wheels. Other than that, it will look like a vintage mustang.

The widebody is cool, but not the look I'm going for with this one.

Car will be heading to Whitby for paint when it's ready.

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Wheels arrived

Wheels arrived today. Had to take a quick picture.


One of the wheels is pitted along the polished edge. Looks like a void in the metal popped during machining. So much for Cragar's QC. It's a pinhole sized 'pop', but they're new and it would drive me nuts every time I cleaned the car.


I notified the seller on eBay and told them about the problem. I said I'd keep the wheel as a spare if they would sell me another one for a discounted price.

They got back to me within 20 mins that they'd sell me another one for $79 (about 25% off what I paid for each wheel). I wanted to have a full size spare to put on the rear deck of my car (no backseat anyway), and I couldn't find a plain steel wheel with the same specs for less, so it was a no brainer.

So my wheel mounting is on hold until the new one shows up, but I have other stuff I can do in the meantime.

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Hey Dan,
That's going to be one awesome mustang when you are done.
Just curious as to which rack system you used? I saw a picture of it in one of your posts but couldn't find mention of the manufacturer.
I acquired a 65 Fastback a couple of months ago and the first things to go are going to be the manual steering and the manual drum brakes.

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Dan, is that plastic stool (the one under the jack stand) strong enough to trust when you are under the car ?
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A while back, I picked up some used/never run speedhut gauges from another guy's project that changed direction.

I will have a dash pod for the tach and oil pressure and wanted the other 5 using a 66 GT cluster. Nobody makes a 5 gauge bezel for aftermarket gauges, so today I took time to figure out how to make them look right.

After doing some research, I bought a rough original bezel off ebay cheap to mess around with. I made this today.

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Have a bit of fine tuning to do and I need to get some spacers to keep the face of the gauge flush to the backside of the bezel so there won't be a gap.

Now that I know it works, I ordered a new bezel tonight.

I will send the gauges back to speedhut to get the face redone and change the light color back to white. They currently have a Gone in 60 Seconds logo there and light up blue. But even after fixing them, I still saved a good amount over a new set.





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Got the tires mounted. Just need to get the springs back in my suspension and it will be ready to roll

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We got the mustang off the body cart and on the ground for the first time. It sure looks a lot smaller now.

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Very nice, congrats on roller status. I am jealous, so far behind where you are at.

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Thanks...brake & fuel lines are on the way. I need to clean up the garage (it looks like a pack-rat has lived there for 10 years already) and swap spots with the Cobra tonight.

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Congrats man, looking good!

I've got to get back to the 65 Rivy project.....Been a while. Got sidetracked with building out my warehouse, office, shop, and now the 2002 Vette Vert project.

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Neighbor came by and we rolled the lift to the other side of the garage and got the mustang up in the air. I have to finish some welding on the bottom of the car and mocking up the brake and fuel lines much easier.

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Looking good Dan... one question... you got room to expand the garage

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I remember when I first saw the garage with the walls up...I thought it was huge. Now I'm tripping over stuff. Mostly because I'm not a clean freak and don't put stuff away.

If I hit the Powerball, I could blow out the back wall and go further out into the backyard another 20 feet. Or just build a driveway and garage on the other side of the house.

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Been working on the brake and fuel lines since my last update.

When I started to work on the front brake lines, I realized that I needed to get the hydraulic master for the clutch installed before I could finish (needed to make sure the adjustable prop valve would fit where I wanted it), so I ordered the Modern Driveline setup and got it mocked up too.











I ordered a 24" radiator (originals in a 65 were around 16" wide), so next up is to modify the radiator support and battery tray.

I think I'm pretty close to being done with mock-ups. Just need to decide if I should drop the 302 engine & T5 trans in the car. I have the Ron Morris adjustable mounts. Not sure if there's any cutting or welding that needs to be done to fit the t5, so I'll research that first.

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Started on the 24" radiator mod

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Do you plan to completely strip the car back apart before paint?

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Yes....I'll talk to Jeff to see how far down to a shell he wants it.

I can pull it apart and leave the suspension in or take it down to a shell and put it on the body cart I have. Probably better to take it 100% apart because the body cart is pretty easy to roll around.

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Dan: Please post pictures of your body cart. I am going to need to put together something for my '70 Mustang build. Was you cart home built, or store bought?

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I will get some better pics for you this weekend. I'm pretty sure this was bought...it came with the car when I go it.

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Still working on the radiator modification. Found a radiator that looks like it will work.

This is a BeCool 16x24" core 2 row radiator.



I'll have to clearance the lip of the core support just a bit. I might space the radiator back just a bit and move it up so I don't have to cut away as much...not 100% sure yet. Going to mess around with some ideas this weekend before I get brackets welded to the radiator.




With it at the current height, it just sits above the frame rails...so all good there.

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