so i got my motor mount issue solved, try to install the transmission there does not seem to be any way to get the tranny in once the engine is already in place. has any one ever pulled a tremec transmission on a mkIII with a ford fe on a finished car looking for any tricks, if not looks like i will have to pull the engine back out.
the reason i installed it with out the tranny i figured it would be easier to handle because i was by myself.
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mkIII picked up 9-10-04 completed 9-05 445fe stroker 750 quick fuel q series tremec 3550 irs ffr fuel cell cobra brakes non donor build black no stripes.
I installed mine with Tranny on back of engine and it was easy.
Even if its possible to install the tranny, I would suggest its easier to pull the engine at this stage.
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Built 5 FFR cars, and seven Kitcars in total
I Used to have a Whitby built Challenge car and a 390FE powered MK4 Roadster...now the ex wife has a Whitby Challenge car and 390 Mk4 !
Installed engine/tranny together, wouldn't even consider anything else.
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FFR#6143 Mk III: FE 455" w/TKO 600 .82, IRS w/3.27's, 17" Team III's w/245/45's & 315/35's. Gas N pipes.
Picked it up end of Aug '08
First start 5-12-10
First go kart 5-26-10
Tag & title 5-26-11, driving in gel coat
'11 Harley SE 110 CVO Electra Glide
'05 Harley Wide Glide (60 hp stock, now 107 hp & 107 ft/lbs at wheel. Mid 11's in the 1/4)
'55 Bel Air hot rod project (WIP)
what did you guys use to install the engine and tranny together?, i am using a engine lift platethat mounts to the carb flange,if you used this which hole did you use?.
when you installed it did you have a helper it seems like a lot of wait to muscle around.
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mkIII picked up 9-10-04 completed 9-05 445fe stroker 750 quick fuel q series tremec 3550 irs ffr fuel cell cobra brakes non donor build black no stripes.
i forgot to ask my engine hoist has extendable legs but it seems to hit the jackstands, i just made some 5 inch wood structures so i can place them under the front tires so i have enough room for the engine hoist to slide under the frame. what did you use when you installed your engines?.
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mkIII picked up 9-10-04 completed 9-05 445fe stroker 750 quick fuel q series tremec 3550 irs ffr fuel cell cobra brakes non donor build black no stripes.
It is easier to do as one assembly, but also easy to do separately if you have a lift and tranny jack. I have done both. If you do them together an engine leveler helps a lot. If you do them separately you can remove the the tranny bracket and install the tranny tailshaft up first. It goes up easily then. After 3 times now I am getting good at it.
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Non-donor build MKIII, 445FE with a .82 TKO-600 mid-shift conversion, and a 4-Link 3.08 rear end. Quickfuel 850 cfm carb, MSD ignition, Koni coilovers, FFR500 wheels and Autometer Cobra Gauges.
Attached are some photos for the install. It was definitely a 3 person event. I thought it could be done with 2, but one person is managing the transmission, the other is pushing the engine into the engine bay, while the other is managing the jack, moving it forward, lowering the engine etc. I bought additional chain to increase the length and hooked it in the front most hole. Once the transmission was in the tunnel, I need a jack to lift it. You will need to move the jack stands to sit underneath the tube that runs from left to right rather than the tubes that run along the length of the car. The pictures mostly show my wife and neighbor installing the engine. I'm the one moving the jack around.
this is the problem my car has the body on, last night i made some wood structures that i can place under the front tires. i thought about it last night that i could put the stands under the front left to right 4 inch tube.
i still would like to just lift the engine and pull it back and try to get the tranny in, i get nervous hanging all that weight over a finished body, i remember when i installed my 342 with the tranny attached with the body off it was difficult because you have to get it so high and tranny angled down because of the position of the x brace and i was by myself.
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mkIII picked up 9-10-04 completed 9-05 445fe stroker 750 quick fuel q series tremec 3550 irs ffr fuel cell cobra brakes non donor build black no stripes.
Using an engine leveler you can do it by yourself and it is relatively easy, just takes some time. Don't even try to do it by yourself without one.
Here's my wife installing the 427w in my cobra:
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RCR GT40 SOLD to Fast and Furious 5 producer
Kirkham #690 (289 FIA) w/427w and TKO 600
1966 GT350 clone w/Boss 347 and TKO 600
1966 Bronco w/289 and 3 speed
1967 Mustang convertible rust bucket (soon to be GT350 clone)
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
I tried again this morning there is no way to get the tranny far enough back the shifter gets in the way. I will have to remove the engine and install the tranny.
The next qustion the cylinder heads only have bolt holes on the drivers side front and the passenger side rear can i still use the leveler with only 2 pick up points?.
also has any one used the harbor freight load leveler?, they are only 40.00, i hate renting it always seems something breaks then you own it. who else sells a cheap load leveler?
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mkIII picked up 9-10-04 completed 9-05 445fe stroker 750 quick fuel q series tremec 3550 irs ffr fuel cell cobra brakes non donor build black no stripes.
The short answer is no but you can still use 4 mount points.
On the passenger side front, use one of the alternator mounting holes. On the driver's rear, remove the bolt at the 10 oclock position that holds the bell housing in place. You can easily reinstall the one bellhousing bolt you removed when you're done.
Here you can see where we used the alternator bolt:
ok i picked up a harbor freight 2 ton load leveler, it is raining today so i cant try to install the engine the garage is not long enough so car has to be 3/4 out side, no room to do from side. i already see a problem with the body on you loose a lot of room if you pick up the engine from the rear of the cyl head and bellhousing the chains will hit the body?
i noticed all the pics you guys had the body off, except for mark reid but he has a small block. if i would of known this was such a headache i would of kept my 342.
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mkIII picked up 9-10-04 completed 9-05 445fe stroker 750 quick fuel q series tremec 3550 irs ffr fuel cell cobra brakes non donor build black no stripes.
Hi i have done it 2 times with a late mark1, i had to tweek the top trans panel a touch, first time 428 second 427s/o both times not a scratch on the paint just take your time it will be worth it.
regards Bob
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ffr3226 427 s/o done Sold ffr1922 FIA conversion SB webbers now done sold 1965 F/B and 1966 Coupe on the way sold
1966 CAVGT40 gulf colors 331 with webers sold
1966 contemporary cobra 427 S/O guardsmen blue with white stripes sold
i think one thing that would of helped would of been to use the short input shaft and the 6057 bellhousing, this would of given a little room to possibly install the tranny afterwards.
i read the kirkham article, they did not have the tranny tunnel in so that made it a lot easier, it was wierd how they hooked up the engine from the side .
i will give it another try with the load leveler once the wheather clears up.
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mkIII picked up 9-10-04 completed 9-05 445fe stroker 750 quick fuel q series tremec 3550 irs ffr fuel cell cobra brakes non donor build black no stripes.
ok i got the engine in with transmission, this was not fun at all by yourself. i was correct about the load leveler the chains would of hit the body near the windshield, i was lucky enough to have the oil pan rest on the x brace so i could take the tension off the load leveler and pick it up from the engine plate that bolts to the carb. i was nervous with all that wait hanging over my black paint job. i did notice i have to trim off a little where the shifter hole is when i put it in first it just hits the aluminum, and the tranny mount only lines up with the middle hole so i will have to enlarge the left and right hole for the mount to bolt up. now i hope the headers fit in the cut outs.
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mkIII picked up 9-10-04 completed 9-05 445fe stroker 750 quick fuel q series tremec 3550 irs ffr fuel cell cobra brakes non donor build black no stripes.
Don't worry to much on the exhaust, you may have to enlarge the anyways because the fe will build alot more heat and start to blister the paint, ask me how i know
regards Bob
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ffr3226 427 s/o done Sold ffr1922 FIA conversion SB webbers now done sold 1965 F/B and 1966 Coupe on the way sold
1966 CAVGT40 gulf colors 331 with webers sold
1966 contemporary cobra 427 S/O guardsmen blue with white stripes sold
when i ran my 342 i had ffr cats, then i ran the j pipes so you had alot of adjustment.
i tried a set of 4x4's and they did not even come close to the openings i had to heat them up and tweek them to fit the openings, i had bought them at the ffr open house they were cheap because they had marks in them from the bends so i did nt care to much.
so now i have to add a relay for the fuel pump termintate the wires for the msd , shorten the wires to the starter, figure out how to hook up the carb throttle cable, and plumb in the new fuel pressure regulator (return style) and make up some new fuel lines in the engine compartment.
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mkIII picked up 9-10-04 completed 9-05 445fe stroker 750 quick fuel q series tremec 3550 irs ffr fuel cell cobra brakes non donor build black no stripes.
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