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Old 09-26-2012, 10:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hidden garage doors

Someone posted on here once about having their garage door go up into the ceiling and mounting the opener in the attic space. I can't find it anywhere. Anyone ever done this?


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Old 09-27-2012, 12:38 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Interesting concept. Are you sure you saw it here? I don't remember it and I try to read all the garage threads.

Doesn't sound like something too difficult to accomplish. It would be impossible to "weatherstrip" it well enough to make the necessary opening thermal-efficient but there is always a sacrifice isn't there.

Some well placed door sweeps would do a decent job I'd think.
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:47 AM   #3 (permalink)
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First question would be: Are your trusses running parallel with the wall in which the door would be installed. If not...really not an option.
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Yup. Running parallel. Thinking I'd need to cut almost a t in the ceiling for the garage opener bracket thing.


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Old 09-27-2012, 04:39 AM   #5 (permalink)
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If you do it, don't forget to take into account a wet, dripping garage door on a rainy day.
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Old 09-27-2012, 10:16 AM   #6 (permalink)
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If you can spare a few inches in ceiling height why don't you think about building a pocket below the existing ceiling for the door to retract into. You could also address the wet door scenario by using appropriate materials and provide a drainage path for moisture/water.

This would also avoid compromising the attic seal.

Interesting idea...it would look pretty clean.

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If you can spare a few inches in ceiling height why don't you think about building a pocket below the existing ceiling for the door to retract into. You could also address the wet door scenario by using appropriate materials and provide a drainage path for moisture/water.

This would also avoid compromising the attic seal.

Interesting idea...it would look pretty clean.

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Exactly what I'm thinking..
Thing to concider would be the second header you would need at the opening..
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Old 09-27-2012, 01:05 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Yup. Running parallel. Thinking I'd need to cut almost a t in the ceiling for the garage opener bracket thing.


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That could be avoided by using this type of opener. Making the install a bit cleaner and the seal potentially better.

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Yep, the false cieling would be the way to go. If you get into the attic space and have an opening to the garage space, then, at least in my county, you will not pass code as far as "fire wall" considerations are concerned. Maybe you don't care about this, but when the house is sold, whoever sells it will have to deal with it. The false cieling would probably be considered just a cosmetic thing.

The wet door thing is definitely something you should not disregard.
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I like those big single panel doors that open up and stay outside the garage felt the most part. They make a nice awning on hot days and don't take up ceiling space.
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I like those big single panel doors that open up and stay outside the garage felt the most part. They make a nice awning on hot days and don't take up ceiling space.
That was the standard door in California for ages. Springs break often and can be dangerous; reduced door opening height so your SUV may not clear; gaps on the sides and the bottom allow dirt, leaves, water and whatever to blow inside making a constant mess. Thankfully new construction now uses roll ups.

I changed mine to rollups and got extended tracks to put the door close to the ceiling.

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Hey Bob,

You didn't say what your goal was, or I missed it. Here are a couple of pics of the door I put in my new garage a couple of years ago to provide clearance for a four post lift. I built with a cathedral ceiling and had the door company special order tracks that would take the door up along the ceiling. I used the same Chamberlain opener shown earlier in the is thread. Have not gotten the lift yet.

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Why go to all the trouble when you could just use real carriage doors.
They weren't THAT much more than my conventional wood overlay garage doors.



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That is what I have on my shed. It rolls up into the attic. It is one piece and does not allow wind,dust, or water into the shed. Seals up real nice too.
I had swing out doors but became a real pain in the winter when I ce would build up outside the door. Doesn't matter now.....
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That is what I have on my shed. It rolls up into the attic. It is one piece and does not allow wind,dust, or water into the shed. Seals up real nice too.
I had swing out doors but became a real pain in the winter when I ce would build up outside the door. Doesn't matter now.....
Yeah...we can't all live in "Paradise Valley" ya know.
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I don't live in Paradise Valley....Don't you pay attention? I live in "The Boonies"!
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here is the thread i think you were thinking about

High lift conversion done! 4 post lift time.

but the pictures are gone.

the garage door went UP real far and then curved a little as it got to the top.
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