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Old 09-18-2012, 02:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
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'Warp drive' may be more feasible than thought, scientists say




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A warp drive to achieve faster-than-light travel — a concept popularized in television's Star Trek — may not be as unrealistic as once thought, scientists say.

A warp drive would manipulate space-time itself to move a starship, taking advantage of a loophole in the laws of physics that prevent anything from moving faster than light. A concept for a real-life warp drive was suggested in 1994 by Mexican physicist Miguel Alcubierre, however subsequent calculations found that such a device would require prohibitive amounts of energy.

Now physicists say that adjustments can be made to the proposed warp drive that would enable it to run on significantly less energy, potentially brining the idea back from the realm of science fiction into science.

"There is hope," Harold "Sonny" White of NASA's Johnson Space Center said here Friday (Sept. 14) at the 100 Year Starship Symposium, a meeting to discuss the challenges of interstellar spaceflight.



Warping space-time

An Alcubierre warp drive would involve a football-shape spacecraft attached to a large ring encircling it. This ring, potentially made of exotic matter, would cause space-time to warp around the starship, creating a region of contracted space in front of it and expanded space behind. [Star Trek's Warp Drive: Are We There Yet? | Video]

Meanwhile, the starship itself would stay inside a bubble of flat space-time that wasn't being warped at all.

"Everything within space is restricted by the speed of light," explained Richard Obousy, president of Icarus Interstellar, a non-profit group of scientists and engineers devoted to pursuing interstellar spaceflight. "But the really cool thing is space-time, the fabric of space, is not limited by the speed of light."

With this concept, the spacecraft would be able to achieve an effective speed of about 10 times the speed of light, all without breaking the cosmic speed limit.

The only problem is, previous studies estimated the warp drive would require a minimum amount of energy about equal to the mass-energy of the planet Jupiter.

But recently White calculated what would happen if the shape of the ring encircling the spacecraft was adjusted into more of a rounded donut, as opposed to a flat ring. He found in that case, the warp drive could be powered by a mass about the size of a spacecraft like the Voyager 1 probe NASA launched in 1977.

Furthermore, if the intensity of the space warps can be oscillated over time, the energy required is reduced even more, White found.

"The findings I presented today change it from impractical to plausible and worth further investigation," White told SPACE.com. "The additional energy reduction realized by oscillating the bubble intensity is an interesting conjecture that we will enjoy looking at in the lab."



Laboratory tests

White and his colleagues have begun experimenting with a mini version of the warp drive in their laboratory.

They set up what they call the White-Juday Warp Field Interferometer at the Johnson Space Center, essentially creating a laser interferometer that instigates micro versions of space-time warps.

"We're trying to see if we can generate a very tiny instance of this in a tabletop experiment, to try to perturb space-time by one part in 10 million," White said.

He called the project a "humble experiment" compared to what would be needed for a real warp drive, but said it represents a promising first step.

And other scientists stressed that even outlandish-sounding ideas, such as the warp drive, need to be considered if humanity is serious about traveling to other stars.

"If we're ever going to become a true spacefaring civilization, we're going to have to think outside the box a little bit, were going to have to be a little bit audacious," Obousy said.

Read more: 'Warp drive' may be more feasible than thought, scientists say | Fox News
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Well, this will help to narrow my power plant choices!
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Old 09-18-2012, 03:33 AM   #4 (permalink)
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So, now all those old Dynos will have to be recalibrated to "Warp 1", "Warp 2, etc... all the way up to "Ludicrous speed" and "Plaid" ?

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Well, this will help to narrow my power plant choices!

"So, what'd'ya got in there? A 427?"

"Nahh, I decided to go with the Alcubierre warp drive".
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"So, what'd'ya got in there? A 427?"

"Nahh, I decided to go with the Alcubierre warp drive".
You stole my thunder... How cool would that be?!?!
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Hmmm, and it only takes 1 000 000 times the amount of energy released by Hiroshima! Gonna need a LOT of batteries or dilithium crystals to make this work!
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The flux capacitor should power that just fine.
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Just wondering though. If they were to launch such a ship would the Vulcans show up after seeing the warp drive signature....?

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If you have never seen "How William Shatner Changed the World" it is worth a watch. All about how so many of todays common use items were inspired by the StarTrek series.
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If you have never seen "How William Shatner Changed the World" it is worth a watch. All about how so many of todays common use items were inspired by the StarTrek series.
That was a entertaining show.. William Shanter it the best over-actor ever.
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Einstein's principle of equivalence "an object accelerated only by gravity is equivilent to a non-accelerated reference frame" is a key axiom of General Relativity. I was shocked to see it called a loophole!

Basically we have some calculations that indicate the Whatchamacallit that creates the dipole gravitational field would take less energy than previously thought (still a immense amount). We still don't have the Whatchamacallit or even know if a gravitational dipole can even exist.

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Sure we do...It is sitting out there in area 51 and everyone knows it. Not sure why the Gov't still denies its existence?
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Does the matter turn to plaid when it hits ludicrous speed? (joke in there for the Mel Brooks fans!)
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