Hollow point ammo is against the Geneva convention, so NO the military doesn't use it for practice or for real.
I assume you mean the Hague Convention of 1899, Declaration III (which the US never signed). It is common for base security and MPs to be armed with hollow points and issue sniper rounds are based on the Sierra MatchKing Hollow Point Boat Tail bullet.
Mike
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"All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
Frequently the justification for doing nothing is the exaggeration of lesser evils.
It's a moot point, largely whether one wants to quibble about the designers intent. They are used - but by and large, don't work in military circumstances so well.
One reason is that a bullet designed to suddenly expand and dissipate the bulk of it's energy in less than 15" of penetration is not very good against body armor, field gear, walls, sandbags, vehicle armor, trees, concrete block, brick and adobe, ad infinitum.
As mentioned above, the specific application of an expanding bullet is when the bad guy is close and unarmored, or at a long distance, unprepared, and likely exposed. In both cases, he's not behind something in a street scene, or thinking he's in a "red" zone under risk.
Soldiers in combat armor up and use all the available cover. Cover is defined as anything that can slow or stop a bullet. The Army's response it to make bullets that penetrate intermediate obstacles and still hit the bad guy. Hence, the typical issue round has a steel penetrator insert, and the brass casing is designed to fragment.
There's also another factor - the intended affect of shooting the enemy is to get them to stop fighting. Death is not a necessity. Most enemy soldiiers are not hit by directed fire - most battlefield hits are by rounds he walked into, or which came to him standing behind some other target. Deep penetration bullets are more likely to hit those soldiers, rather than an expanding bullet that dumps all it's energy into the first thing it hits.
Entirely why the FBI does NOT use expanding hunting point bullets. They select on a protocol that involves shooting thru sheet metal, class, walls, doors, etc.
They use a hollow point - designed to expand to about 1.5 times the initial diameter, and likely the cavity is filled with polymer to assist in the expansion, along with a heavy interlock construction to keep in from fragmenting. The focus is on penetrating at least 15 inches even after impact with the intermediate barrier. In a direct hit, it still only penetrates about 15." It's a difficult balancing act, but innocent bystanders can be at risk with bullets that shoot thru.
Last, signing a treaty to limit the nature of what we can and can't use subordinates our sovereignty to an international authority. That means whatever organization can decide - not the Constitution.
I don't need no sticnkin international military authority telling me what I can and can't bring into a fight defending my nation and family. Anyone who wants to give away my rights as an American to play kissy kissy with the international community should reconsider what side of the line they are stepping over. They lack a serious understanding of the loss of citizenship they just threw away.
That's the real meaning of the ignorant comments about "We can't use hollow point bullets." We can, we do, and suggesting we are subject to some other authority outside the Constitution is tantamount to treason. Which is, after all, your right, defended by the lives of your neighbors, friends, and fellow citizens.
Like was said, barely enough to train agents in a years time.
What isn't funny is the public making noise about something that happens every year. Why so important now? Oh, they finally paid attention to what was already going on for decades. Or - somebody's news cycle was lame, so they pumped out some conspiracy flubber to attract attention.
The next thing I'll be reading is complete amazement there are live wires connected to the fuel pump submerged in the tank, and why doesn't it explode!!!.
The only people getting worked up about it are the ones who don't know squat about life around them.
I don't understand the defend their offices statements. If there isn't any money and no checks going out or money coming in why would the offices even have anyone there? I would think they would get a call the day of and tell them to lock up and go home. If I was an employee there is no way I would be in the office the day the money ran out. I'd be far, far away....
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I don't understand the defend their offices statements. If there isn't any money and no checks going out or money coming in why would the offices even have anyone there? I would think they would get a call the day of and tell them to lock up and go home. If I was an employee there is no way I would be in the office the day the money ran out. I'd be far, far away....
It turns out that Social Security offices can be dangerous places. They do in fact deal with the public day in and day out. I know people who have worked in SSA offices, and most of them have received death threats, usually several of them. Not a few SSA employees are assaulted and beaten, either in the office or the parking lot. By and large the danger is not from the old age and survivors beneficiaries. It is usually from the "mentally disabled" and collectors of SSI benefits.
There are a lot of sociopaths out walking around, and any time you are dealing with their sources or potential sources of income, you are on the firing line.
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If there isn't any money and no checks going out or money coming in why would the offices even have anyone there? I would think they would get a call the day of and tell them to lock up and go home. If I was an employee there is no way I would be in the office the day the money ran out. I'd be far, far away....
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