Yep I can see it now........ There's Joe, diving over a row of seats, landing in the isle with his pistol spraying lead everywhere as he did a barrel roll kinda like John McClain in "Die Hard"!
But, when I was younger I would without a doubt pulled out my pistol and have went to work on the BG. But I did a lot of dumbass things back then too
Paul
And just to be clear that's your characterization, not mine. Nobody other than you mentioned diving over rows of seat and spraying lead.
I said "if opportunity presented itself I would NOT just lay there, play dead and hope that he didn't kill me." For me personally it would take a lot more intestinal fortitude to just lay there while people are getting slaughtered. Maybe we're just different, but I don't think I could live with myself if I just curled up, pissed my pants and did nothing..
Anyone can speculate on what one or another might have, or could have done. But, IMO, it is impossible for us to do so. Unless you were there, I just don't think any of us can really gauge or fathom as to what truely occured in that instant. If your sitting in a dark movie theater, the last thing anybody anticipates is a mad man running inside, launching teargas, and mowing down the crowd. I'm sure things happened so fast, there was mass caos, confusion, and shock, even for the highly trained. Just my opinion.
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And just to be clear that's your characterization, not mine. Nobody other than you mentioned diving over rows of seat and spraying lead.
I said "if opportunity presented itself I would NOT just lay there, play dead and hope that he didn't kill me." For me personally it would take a lot more intestinal fortitude to just lay there while people are getting slaughtered. Maybe we're just different, but I don't think I could live with myself if I just curled up, pissed my pants and did nothing..
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Thanks for the laugh!
No, really, thanks for the laugh. It's been a long hot week and I have a summer cold, which really sucks so I needed a good laugh.
Speaking of peeing your pants........
Right before the SHTF in my very first combat op ( we were taking supplies to the Contras in Honduras) an old 'Nam Vet Loadmaster said that we were about 15 minutes out and that I should take a leak before i geared up. I told him I was "good to go" and he responded something like "I wasn't asking you if you needed to I'm telling you to take a leak before we land!".
Afterward I sure was glad he did!
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Anyone can speculate on what one or another might have, or could have done. But, IMO, it is impossible for us to do so. Unless you were there, I just don't think any of us can really gauge or fathom as to what truely occured in that instant. If your sitting in a dark movie theater, the last thing anybody anticipates is a mad man running inside, launching teargas, and mowing down the crowd. I'm sure things happened so fast, there was mass caos, confusion, and shock, even for the highly trained. Just my opinion.
Yes, exactly correct, except for one thing. A person generally knows if he/she is the type of person that is going to step up if the opportunity presents itself. Unfortunately there is a significant part of the population that always feels that it's not their problem, or thinks that someone else should deal with it.
As the above scenario was described, if you felt like you had the chance to do something, would you? There are many people that wouldn't, even if it was clear they could.
This is getting kind of silly. Assuming you ignored Aurora's and possibly Denver's stricter than the rest of the state gun laws and the theatre policy,by several accounts you probably would not have been able to keep your eyes open with the gas.
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Nobody has mentioned the fact that due to the confusion and panic that you would be mistakenly ID'd as the shooter and possibly killed by responding police thus allowing the real shooter to escape. In essence, you become part of the problem.
Protect/help the ones you can, but don't needlessly put yourself in harms way. Not to mention that your bullet may injure or kill an innocent victim.
Question on the weapons he used, the 'assult riffle' was an AR15 with a larger capacity magazine, correct, not an AK47. Has it been reported at all if he had tried to covert it to fully automatic? I thought I had read someplace that the gun jamed on him and was curious if a conversion was the cause.
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Nobody has mentioned the fact that due to the confusion and panic that you would be mistakenly ID'd as the shooter and possibly killed by responding police thus allowing the real shooter to escape. In essence, you become part of the problem.
Protect/help the ones you can, but don't needlessly put yourself in harms way. Not to mention that your bullet may injure or kill an innocent victim.
Yeah, okay.. It guess it might be unsafe or risky to get involved.. I take everything back...
Question on the weapons he used, the 'assult riffle' was an AR15 with a larger capacity magazine, correct, not an AK47. Has it been reported at all if he had tried to covert it to fully automatic? I thought I had read someplace that the gun jamed on him and was curious if a conversion was the cause.
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I read that it possibly jammed due to an after-market high capacity drum style magazine that he was using, but it's probably going to take further analysis and time to find out for sure what happened..
I find that REALLY cool...not "chilling" in any fashion, as the author states.
Also he states that "who knows what is possible" once resin isn't the only forming material. I talked with soomeone earlier this week that said he talked with a guy that worked on a Scaled Composites rocket engine where they used a titanium substrate to constitute a dome for the engine out of Ti, so it sounds like it is ALREADY being done.
Interesting but makes sense. When Californians migrated from Cali to Colorado, these areas saw the largest. No surprise that the gun laws would mirror cities in Cali
This is getting kind of silly. Assuming you ignored Aurora's and possibly Denver's stricter than the rest of the state gun laws and the theatre policy,by several accounts you probably would not have been able to keep your eyes open with the gas.
Mike
Not to mention the adrenaline rush. I've seen good marksman hunter friends get "buck fever" with the prospect of getting off a shot at a trophy, and shoot into the dirt way way in front of the deer. And that's with a rifle, not a handgun.
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Interesting but makes sense. When Californians migrated from Cali to Colorado, these areas saw the largest. No surprise that the gun laws would mirror cities in Cali
Thanks for that info Cory. Maybe now someone might have the guts to fight Colorado's anti-gun laws. Right now it seems the only way you can legally defend yourself there is to stab the person to death. But then they would try to outlaw knives...
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