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Cutting cable ties without leaving sharp edge

After reading a number of posts that mention the frustration around the razor sharp edge left behind when cutting regular cable ties, I though I'd toss in my 2 cents. Having worked as an industrial electrician, I can attest to having my hand cut more than a few times when reaching around cables. There is hope though. It's not the fault of the cable tie. Many years ago a wise old tradesman taught me two methods of cutting the tail off the cable tie without leaving that sharp edge. Refer to attached pic.

1 - Grab the tail with some linesman's pliers and twist the end off. This takes a few turns. Not always perfect. Can sometimes leave behind a small spike. Make sure your pliers are square with [perpendicular to] the block and as close to the block as possible.
2 - Using side cutters, open them up so you cut off a little bit of the corner of the block as well. This shaves the tail flush with the block. This is the best method I've found.

I've heard of dedicated tools for both installation and cutting the ties. I have no experience with these.
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....Mark...that is a very good tip.....thankyou!!

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I'll have to give that a try, I usually leave them long and tuck the end out of the way for that very reason.

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I have a small pair of cutters that are beveled on the inside only so they cut flush on the outside that I use for just that purpose.

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I use may Craftsman Handi-Cut to cut cable ties. It has a razor type blade that can be laid flat against the block and will cut the tail off flush and with a square edge instead of pinching it into a sharp chisel like edge. Here is a link. It looks like the smaller size is on sale right now. http://www.craftsman.com/shc/s/p_101...yword=handicut

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I use my wire stripper to cut the ends off of my cable ties, i have sevral brands, Craftsman has them, so does Klien, and the list goes on. If you don't know what I'm refering to they have several size strip notches with a wire cutter to the inside of them. If you lay the cutter flat to the block you can cut it off flush. Hope this helps.
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I have a cable tie install tool that tightens the tie and cuts the end, leaving no tag end. It's sort of a pistol grip tool you insert the tie into and squeeze the handle to tighten and cut the tie.

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I'm sure you've seen the post Mike Forte made the other day. . . He's stocking a "cobra cable tie". It has a rounded top and easier to cut the tabs. . .


may be worth taking a look
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These are called ultra fine point flush cutters
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These are called ultra fine point flush cutters
X3 on using flush cutters. I use MAC.
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I'm sure you've seen the post Mike Forte made the other day. . . He's stocking a "cobra cable tie". It has a rounded top and easier to cut the tabs. . .may be worth taking a look
I agree. Mike's cable ties do look interesting. That was my reason for posting this thread. After reading the replies to Mike's thread that complained about the sharp leftovers, I decided to start this separate thread so as not to take his discussion off topic.

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I have a cable tie install tool that tightens the tie and cuts the end, leaving no tag end. It's sort of a pistol grip tool you insert the tie into and squeeze the handle to tighten and cut the tie.
Panduit: tensions the tie properly & cuts it of without any sharp edges.


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Panduit: tensions the tie properly & cuts it of without any sharp edges.

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Whatever tool you use, cut them ties flush!

Having installed 10s of thousands & having been cut by more than few of these inexpensive but effective cable ties, always, always cut them flush.
If you've not had the pleasure of being cut yet, remember this forum is mostly about someone else's experience. The end of one of these not properly cut will cut you as good as a razor blade.
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I have a cheaper version of the gun shown and it works pretty well. Great for getting a tie wrap snugged up an trimmed in a tight spot, like under the dash.

Personally, I HATE seeing a tie wrap with an uncut tail still on it. I've looked in engine bays and under cars at shows and when I see them it just says "unfinished" or "don't care" to me...

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Whenever I've used wire ties like those above, I've always trimmed them clean with an old instant on soldering gun. No jagged ends, no mess. Leaves a very clean, professional looking end to it.


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I've used a flush cut nipper as shown by a number of guys here, but barring that if all I have is a normal side cutter, I just cut across the long side of the tail which leaves a somewht ugly end, but at least there's not a long tail... The end is not sharp, but is blunt..

I've always wanted to try one of those zip tie guns ....

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