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Old 10-16-2012, 09:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Reasonable Engine Transaxle Combination

Hi everyone. Just wondering your input on reasonably priced engine and transaxle combinations that could get ya going and maybe replaced or upgraded at a later date.

How inexpensive can you get into it and have it reliable. (Assuming I'm not going to beat the crap out of it).

How much trouble pulling it later to do upgrade work?

Anyone ever sell engine/trans packages assembled?

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Old 10-16-2012, 10:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
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There is a GTM kit with trans and 01 donor on eBay right now. Bid at 10.6. Screaming deal for someone. No mention of the engine though.


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Old 10-16-2012, 01:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I would say that as far as ease of upgrading later.......the engine harness is going to be (IMO, by FAR) the biggest headache. If you install a donor engine/harness now, and down the road you want to upgrade the engine to a new LS376, trying to figure out how to remove the donor harness and install a crate harness is going to not be a pleasant experience.

Other than that, if you're just planning on pulling the engine to do mechanical upgrades to it, this would not be an issue. The best thing you can do is plan ahead so that if you need to pull the rear sub-frame out of the car, you keep your electrical circuits back there so that you can pull the subframe without having to un-wire everything at the rear of the car.
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There's also the stock LS1 and used G50.

I sold the LS1 from my donor for $2300 and I see them listed in the lower $2k range. It can be upgraded for some very decent numbers especially for the light weight mid-engine design of the GTM.

I've also seen G50s form the $3Ks into the $4Ks. You could run it as is and upgrade later.
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LS1 and a G50 is a great combo to start with.

LS1 stock you should be able to get 300-400 HP.

If you get above the 500 horsepower mark, then you will probably want to look at upgrading the trans to something like the Mendeola.
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There is a GTM kit with trans and 01 donor on eBay right now. Bid at 10.6. Screaming deal for someone. No mention of the engine though.


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I am actually bidding on that car in VA for $10700. I am going to look at it in person with my father Sunday. Really looking forward to a GTM build if this deal goes through!
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I am actually bidding on that car in VA for $10700. I am going to look at it in person with my father Sunday. Really looking forward to a GTM build if this deal goes through!
I was thinking this was one you would want to see in person. Minimal description/pictures, the current bid and the incorrect serial no........It's either a scam or a friend listing it for his buddy.

When you see it check the chassis serial.

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LS1 and a G50 is a great combo to start with.

LS1 stock you should be able to get 300-400 HP.

If you get above the 500 horsepower mark, then you will probably want to look at upgrading the trans to something like the Mendeola.

Like Crash says, stock and used.

if you don't abuse it, the G50 will move the car around. you can then upgrade later or rebuild it to cover the additional HP that you upgrade to.
almost all the parts are in the kit to use the G50. the nickel and dime stuff will add up if you don't plan.
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I am actually bidding on that car in VA for $10700. I am going to look at it in person with my father Sunday. Really looking forward to a GTM build if this deal goes through!
Just a heads up, you should try to run through the parts checklist to makes sure things aren't missing, i've heard that's been a problem in the past with guys purchasing used kits.
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So I read the thread on the different G50 descriptions. Will any if them work? It has to be inverted correct? Can I do that myself or is there somewhere to send it.




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Old 10-17-2012, 08:31 PM   #11 (permalink)
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http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewi...094&cmd=VIDESC


How about something like that.


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Talk to the guys at California Motorsports(CMS) or at G Box about your options. They are very helpful to GTM builders and will steer you right if you are going to do a Porsche box.
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LS1 and a G50 is a great combo to start with.

LS1 stock you should be able to get 300-400 HP.

If you get above the 500 horsepower mark, then you will probably want to look at upgrading the trans to something like the Mendeola.
I got a 40,000 mile takeout from a wrecked 2003 Vette for $3500 with computer, harness, and all accessories. It made 350 rwhp bone stock through my TKO 500.
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You have for sale? Or that's what's in your car?


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Remember too that you are not limited to procuring your LS1 from a C5. Other GM platforms are wrapped around an LS1. They're usually cheaper for that reason alone. Your chances increase for acquiring it locally also.
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Old 10-18-2012, 10:53 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Here's my set up.....

G50-01 5 speed (stronger than the 6speeds) 23k miles $2350.00

L33 out of a 2005 Silverado, xr269 cam/springs, 380hp, 29k miles $750

$3100.00 (not including the new clutch). Came with an old clutch too.

I did go donor... so before I sold of the LS1 from the Vette I swapped the GTM required parts off the LS1 to the L33, the buyer did not care as the engine was going in an old C10 pickup.
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Old 10-20-2012, 04:43 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Donor LS1 & G50

You can always part out a donor, sell what you don't need and likely end up with a free LS1 with low mileage and your donor parts. I did this and bought a used G50 for about $3500 with all needed accessories. I rebuilt the G50 through G-Box for about $1500 so ended up with a pretty solid base package for $5k. As some already stated you can upgrade the ls1 pretty reasonably and get some additional ponies. Don't need much for a 2500lb car.
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the fly on the wall said HEATCO got there combo for a (reasonable)* cost
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Albhb3. You lost me on that one.


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