I started out with a budget build, planned for $20k, no more. I picked up my donor, everything looked great. Upon closer inspection I noticed that the rear main seal was leaking, so I reluctantly decided to have the engine rebuilt (not in budget). While this was going on, I called Mike Forte – whom I highly recommend – and he said things to me like, “Are you going to drive this thing like you stole it?” 20 minutes later, I had ordered a Tremec 3550, McCleod scattershield, and a bunch of awesome clutch components (not in budget). Then I decided that if I’m going to drive it like I stole it, I might as well look like a rock star and go with the carb’ed setup (not in budget). In the meantime, my engine builder talked me into a new set of heads – so I went all out and got Trick Flow twisted wedge heads (again, not in budget). Everyone knows you can’t have new heads without a new Trick Flow cam, pushrods, and why not replace the lifters while you’re in there (duh, right?). And if you’re going to have a setup like that, you definitely want an MSD-6AL ignition, Blaster Coil, Holley Blue Pump, Autometer gauges, ceramic coated Tri-State pipes, IRS wit pin drive width arms, Torque Thrust 15” wheels and good looking BFG’s all around.
Right about that time, some vandals broke into my shop and stole everything I owned forcing me to purchase everything all over again (big-time not in the budget). Luckily, I hadn’t ordered my wheels yet and they left the transmission and components – so it wasn’t a total loss.
So now I’ve got a car loaded with awesome parts sitting in my shop with all 4 wheels on the ground while I wait for a T-filler for the radiator hose. Other than that, she’s ready to fire up.
Do you think my mom would object if I got her a bump steer kit for Christmas and then told her it would go great on my car?
Sum total of all donor parts = front spindles, engine block, radiator.
Drew
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ffr4408, p.d. irs, 373\'s, tremec 3550, 302, trick flow twisted wedge heads, trick flow cam, edelbrock air gap intake, holley 650dp, tristate 4-into-4\'s and msd all around.
Whoo boy, does that sound familiar, minus the parts getting stolen that is.
Budget build planned:
Do the teardown, and...
bushings and ball joint shot (new LCAs $225)
Gee, I'd like disk in the rear... (M2300K $1700)
Wife takes one look at the engine while I'm preparing to tear it down.. "You're not putting that old thing in your new car!?" uhh.. no. (FRPP crate motor ~$3000)
M2300K is 5 lug.. (New wheels, $540)
Open up the rear end and find shredded gears and trac-loc (new rear end, with 3.73 ~$800)
Wife questions use of "old beat up radiator" ($150)
Dead Alternator ($120)
Start car and PS rack spews oil after sitting for 2 years ($125)
Bad injectors ($200)
Side pipes are too loud.. (Tristates $900)
well.. you get the idea
But I love the car, and the acceleration is a drug -- I think I see a 351 in my future....
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Mike Baumann - FFR2822, GT40 AL heads, E303, Tristate 4into4s, 3.73s, Cobra Intake, custom chip. HOK Oriental Blue Kandy(KBC04) over Black(BC25).
Mine went through the roof. If I had stayed the course, I could have bought my GT40 kit. Now I have to wait while my funds accumulate.
2FAST
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Bill D
FFR 3378 - 503 BB, $old and missed
RCR GT40 - 1051P clone, $old
FFR 7991 - becoming a 289 FIA with a Mr. Bruce body, 331, dual quads, T-5, IRS, Trigo pin drive wheels, and Goodyear billboards http://www.bills289fia.com
I'm like LuisO. I waited so long before getting started that I recognized some of my original follies ("Hey!! I can build this for $20K or less!!") and continually upgraded my plan.
When I finally got agreement from my bride to build this thing, I showed her my budget and I believe I can stick to it. But it's a helluva lot closer to $30K than $20K now.
AJ
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The donor concept and performance numbers from a stock build get you sucked in....then the sleepless planning nights kill you. As soon as you waive the donor ..... you are in a budget spiral. You skip the donor because you want certain things, then you say "well I can't do that because that wouldn't go with all the other nice stuff".
If she had any idea....I would be a dead man...ok, not dead but seriously in the dog house.
All my friends wives manage the household finances....there is no way I could be where I am if we worked that way.
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Chuck
FFR #4758-IRS-Pin Drive widths - 351W - 3.55's - Tremec 3550 - 15" PSE GT-40, 295's ----- SOLD
I originaly had the car on the road for 18k with rear coil overs dual roll bars painted at home, classic Gauges, vintage air heater, and a wiper kit bought on the old forum from someone who didn't want to use it.
That was all before the radiator leaked, the tranny wouldn't shift right, the engine started knocking around 3000rpm's, and I decided auto-xing on the turbine wheels just wasn't gonna cut it, not to mention the power steering upgrade, trunk mods, battery box, and optima battery, foot box vent kit upgrade, etc. etc.....
but I can still say I built my 30k cobra for 18k
I don't really have a budget, never did. I sort of keep track of expenses, but not very closely.
I decided in the beginning what I wanted, and how to get there. Then I just went. I knew some things would be really expensive (EFI), but that would be balanced out by things I didn't really want (stereo, leather), or could do without (digital gauges). I'm also a good shopper, and don't waste money on things that don't have "value added" IMO. I'm also not afraid to buy used parts and recondition them. E-bay and this forum have been my friend.
If I had stuck to a strict budget the car would be on street by now. But I buy parts as I get money. It's going to take a little longer, but I'm building the car the way I want it the first time.
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.boB
Dart 427W, Momar 8 Stack EFI, 600'ish hp, TKO, 3.55 TruTrac, Red with Ghost Flames. More fun than should legally be allowed. http://home.comcast.net/~bobcowan035/site/
Drew - All too similar to my story. Bought the donor, replaced all of the donor parts except the pedal box and fuel filler tube with new. About 3 months ago I decided to tally up all those slips that were stuffed in by build binder. Let's just say I'm in the mid thirties now with about 5K more to spend on paint & bodywork. Surprised - you bet. Regrets - not a one .
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Shep
6362RD picked up 10/27/07 - Sold to John Lipka on 3/31/11
4469 delivered 6/28/03 - finished 4/4/05. Supercharged 5.0 Claret Red Metallic. Sold to Cobra Cory in 2/07.
Hey Drew, Sorry to hear about the buget. If I remember correctly after a few beers you did say something about more horse power. That's where it all starts. It's good to see you are moving right along with the car. After the setbacks you have had some people would have given up. Keep at it. I hope to be back in your neck of the woods this spring. Would love to get together again. And you may not want to try the "Car parts for mother" thing. But maybe for dad.
Take care, Wayne
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Back at it and it feels soo good! My World, My Universe, My Garage
Drew: seems you missed my post last month on "budget". Kind of an oxymoron term. Might want to budget your patience instead; it'd be easier.
My $25k "plan" went to $35k in just 2-1/2 months and I haven't even bought the kit yet! I have the donor though and I think the problem is, the longer you take to build, the more apt you're likely to change the plan.
Fortunately, I'm at the point where even with the donor, the high water mark is set at $35k but at least now I know it's a more reasonable amount than the original $25k. However, my wife has already been resigned to a $40K plan! [img]smile.gif[/img]
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The biggest problem I have now is the used donor stuff does not look good against other new parts. The more new parts I buy, the uglier the donor parts appear. I can not believe I bought a brand new EGR valve just because the old one looked old!
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17,520 days old....but who's counting?
Mike, check out Eastwood. They are masters of refinishing. Time consuming, but cheap(er).
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.boB
Dart 427W, Momar 8 Stack EFI, 600'ish hp, TKO, 3.55 TruTrac, Red with Ghost Flames. More fun than should legally be allowed. http://home.comcast.net/~bobcowan035/site/
I am like boB. No budget. Wait, my budget is: When I run out of money, I spend a little more. Seriously, this has been a dream of mine and took many years of starring at FFR flyers, videos and kit car mags in addition to success in my business before I got to this point. Once I decided to do it, I made the decision that I spend what it takes to get it done right, aka my way!!! No regrets. Bottom line, don't take any shortcuts unless your budget absolutely demands it. For the many of us, this is our dream car. Don't sell short of your dream.
This thread made me go thru mile FFR file and add up my wish list of parts. hmmmm...maybe i shouldn't have done that. I came up with $11,500 in parts alone and that doesn't include paint/body and small stuff. I have 10k set aside in savings for parts, looks like i need to save more. Good thing is my list includes good stuff like a Keith Kraft 331 stroker longblock, tremec trans, 5 lug 4w disc conversion, nice wheels, tristate headers, etc, etc, etc. Budget....what budget?!
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Brian
Kit delivery 2/15/04 357 Windsor, tremec, 3-link, Black Bullets 17x9/17x10.5 w/315s, street performers, dual rollbars, etc, etc, etc.....So much for a \"stock donor build\"
Oh, I almost forgot, I used the donor gas tank, gas tank cover and filler neck. I also traded the wiring harness to a nice gentleman in Utah for a bunch of cool switches for my dash.
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