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I found a set of PBR brakes in good shape w/rotors and pads for $150. How do these compare to the 13 in Cobra brakes which run around $400 for the set? I've heard the PBR brakes are pretty good and I'm looking to save some cash here now that I've decided to go IRS, Tremec, 351W (need I go on?).

I can upgrade the brakes later but at the same time I don't want to have crappy brakes that feel like the car won't stop. If this setup is no good I'd rather put the $150 towards the right thing from the start. What do you guys think? Thanks as always.
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They should be OK. I'm going with stock brakes at first, but plan to upgrade to the Wilwood system later. I got too many extras as well!
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I think they're the same. PBR makes the Cobra calipers. The only difference between the two is that the Cobra caliper has the word "Cobra" cast into it. $150 isn't a bad price for a used setup. I think I'd prefer to spend the $400 and get new calipers, Brembo rotors, and flex hoses. Not to mention that cool "Cobra" cast onto the calipers.
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I have the PBR'S and love'em. They work very well and someday will be highly polished You can usually find them on ebay for $159.00 plus $40.00 for shipping. These will be takes offs with less than 20 miles on them. I have bought two sets this way. They came with loaded calipers,soft lines, and rotors.
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What does "PBR" mean?
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Thanks once again guys. These are the loaded calipers with nearly new pads, rotors made for Ford by Brembo, and soft lines. Eventually I will probably upgrade to Cobra brakes all around with slotted/drilled rotors, but these seem like a good option for now. Plus with the Halibrands you can't see the Cobra brakes that well anyways.
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If your using 17 Hal/you will see the calipers fairly well
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OT: are the willwoods lighter then the cobra brake set-up. Rotors and calipers

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AJ - I haven't verified this but I've been told Wilwood calipers don't have dust seals on the pistons, making them a poor choice for long-term street use. Again, I haven't verified this.

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A word of caution - the Wilwood calipers (both Dynalite and Superlite) will not work with 15" wheels or with any of the Halibrand copies.

You'll need to get custom machined Compomotives or Image wheels (the pads must be machined for proper hub to spoke spacing), or use Cobra R's or aftermarket wheels like the ROH Spyders.

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I know.. I was just trying to convince myself. After seeing the Cobra brakes with sloted/drilled rotors(they are truly beautiful) at LuisO's this is a paiful decision. However, I've upgraded so many of my other options I have to cut back somewhere and these brakes are still nice. Maybe I'll get them powdercoated as a compromise...
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Bob PBR is a manufacturer who make the calipers for Ford. I have a set of the PBR dual pistons with cross drilled rotors I retrofitted on my tbird and as well as they stop a 3800Lb car they should be nothing short of stellar on a FFR


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Thanks MN. I've been in this Cobra thing for about 6 or 7years now and there's still more to learn. Bob
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Just to be clear. There are two PBR calipers. The regular mustang ones with 11 brakes and the Cobra version with the 13 inch brakes. The spindles are similar, 94-95 and 96 up. The calipers and rotors are different.

Again just to be clear, North Racecars worked with Team III to get a bolt on Halibrand wheel to clear the Cobra brakes. We are now selling them, see website below. PSE also sells a pin drive wheel that clears the Cobra brakes.

Barry up until a couple of weeks ago your statement about wheels was true. I know you are just trying to aviod others having problems like you did. Thanks for the input.

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Richard -

Will these new Team-3's work with the Wilwood (not PBR Cobra) calipers?

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