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Coupe Sunroof??

Has anyone put a sunroof in the coupe? This would not be traditional but it would be nice to have a fresh breeze and it would let in plenty of light.

Any thoughts or structural concerns?

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post #2 of 20 (permalink) Old 03-08-2017, 10:40 PM
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If you can figure out how to support it (moving the two welded tubes in the center of the roof), and still have enough headroom, I think it's a great idea.


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No structural issues.. just headroom impacts as noted...

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I say go for some T-tops! That would would be wicked!

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It looks killer. And think about how much easier it would be to get in and out!

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Cobrakai, that would be awesome, almost step in and slide down into the seat like the roadster guys do.

I'm 6'3'' and have the technique down now but sometimes I catch myself giving a little grunt getting out, haha

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there is still the side rail of the roll cage to navigate.. !

Does look V cool though ..

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neat ideas guys
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I like the look also but I'm afraid that northshores correct, the rollbar will keep you from getting more then about 1" max more room.


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Drop in my two cents.
I was thinking more of a GT40 style doors and moving the roll bars to the center of the Coupe.



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Sun roof

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Somehow, there must be a way to do T-tops. It would take a lot of engineering. I am going to start looking at production cars with them. Doing both T-tops and power windows would absolutely qualify for one of the coupe straight jackets!
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Man, I was totally kidding about the T-tops. But if one of you geniuses actually figures out how to do it I'm gonna be putting more money into the coupe! How freakin cool would that be??? Love the idea of the GT40 style doors as well...

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Quite a discussion!

I have ordered the 15"x28" Genesis roof from CL Laurence. It will be here in a few days and then I have to really decide if I am going to hack a hole in my coupe roof!

Attached is a little picture. I am still not exactly clear about the minimal roof thickness this kit will tolerate. This size would seem to fit nicely between the bars all around. I would lose about an inch of headroom for the inner trim ring if I am reading the diagrams correctly. I am not so tall at 5'10" plus I have my seat mounted low ... I decided not to use the adjustable sliders for the seat (anyone need a set of sliders cheap?).

I also still need to confirm the profile of the roof to see if the curve radius matches the coupe (or is close enough).

I'll update you guys in a few days. I think I see about 420 fewer square inches of roof to sand and screw up the paint on in my near future!!

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Yes first T-tops, then Lambo doors!
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Yep GT40 or Mercedes Gullwing doors.
Then us fat guys can get in much easier.

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The easiest out of all the options is a Targa Top.
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Ok ... Plan B. No, Not Targa Tops (that would be beyond my limited skill set!). The first sunroof I ordered will not work. The website did not specify that this particular sunroof can only be used with a metal roof car with a 0.045" nominal sheetmetal thickness. This sunroof uses a cam type lock mechanism around the rim rather a top and bottom screw-together ring type mechanism which can adjust for different roof / headliner thicknesses.

So ... they will graciously allow me to return the first sunroof and I have ordered a more traditional design. It does have a dual radius design which should accommodate the shape of the coupe roof (rather than forcing on a flat sunroof). The locking handle hangs a bit low but that should be centered and behind either the driver's or passenger's head and hopefully not an issue.

I'll keep you all up to date on my sunroof progress if I ever make progress!

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Coupe #648 Sunroof Madness Update:

And we are committed now ... committed to having a sunroof or at least a hole in the roof and / or ready to be committed ...

I finally got tired of hemming and hawing and staring at the outline of a sunroof and got my pneumatic saw and I made it real.

Once that was done I could finally flip the "carapace" so I can start working on the topside body work.

Today I made quick work of grinding off the gel coat with 120 grit on the DA. Next up will be some more Rage Gold work. It was beautiful out today so I worked under a canopy outside so the dust wouldn't be all over in my shop.

The pictures show the sunroof hole and my cheapskate "paint booth" made from a picnic canopy and some plastic. It will be interesting to see if that helps keep the paint overspray dust better contained.
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I liked the roll bar in the way....that would give my old fat ass something to lower myself down and lift out of the car...da Bat

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