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Old 10-22-2012, 12:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Time to get out the protractors, please

Got the body on your Coupe? Well, of course. You're driving it while slack jawed onlookers like me wipe the drool from our chin and stand glassy eyed in the presence of The One.

Anyway, what is the angle of the cove? It's not vertical, ie 90 degrees. There's obviously a slant, typical lights tend to point a bit downward, it looks.

'Bout how far off vertical is it?
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Old 10-22-2012, 01:25 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 10-22-2012, 02:13 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Just measured mine at 32 degrees, however ride heights and tire sizes may play a part in slight differences. I just had mine aligned and the ride height set, and am running 235/60-15 on front and 295/50-15 on the rear.

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I thought someone might detect a lack of explanation.

HHR tail lights. They are mounted on bump outs, but still sit at a slight angle. Rotated 90 degrees, I think they might "straighten up" in the cove. If necessary, some slices of piping/frenching would do it.

Big red round taillight, reverse is a red ring with white center, same size. In a "What would it look like as '67 Shelby production?" they certainly fit the motif - the GT40 used Corvair lights. Those look a bit too retro with the raised center section.

'67 Mustang front turn signals. The little ones inside the headlight would make better "Engine Overheat" warning lights on the dash.

Along those lines, someone is going to fab a projector type headlight for the Coupe someday, with hi/low beams, turn signal, amber marker lens, in glorious ribbed and shiny chrome. I decided it wasn't going to be me.

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Should it interest you, I have a mold for a very similar tail light that I put on my coupe. It leaves the tail lights pointing down at 15 degrees, sits on small bumps that protrude out the back, and the mold is made of wax so no moldcare is necessary. It is sized for harley road-king lights and lenses.

Can be seen in one of my sneak peek posts. Forget which.

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Tirod,

There is a headlight that has the turn signal built in. There are a few cars out there with them mounted. Can't remember who though...

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Here is the headlamp with built in turn/park lamp. With the recess though, you need to have a side marker that doubles as a turn signal.

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With the headlamps with built in directional lights you'ld be hard pressed to see the light blinking at night with the glare of the headlamps! My solution was to install small LED beehive lights (Watson's Street Works - Item #L84A - Pg 16) as directional lights only in the grille cavity slightly recessed. Very bright night or day and hardly noticeable when not lit.

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Yes, the street rod suppliers have the headlights with turn signals built in. On a rod build, the lamp enclosures are often mounted on stems attached to the frame, not the body work. Where to put a turn signal then becomes another one of those street rod things.

The '67 turn signals can be used with a dual filament bulb, running and turn. It would drop them below the radius down under the light, out of the nacelle. It worked nicely on my '66, I see the '67 in body color as blending in better. Just rotate and mount at a complementary angle to the slant already designed into it.

That shouldn't be any bother at all, right? (Yeah, sure, I know.)

Anyway, both have LED setups available for upgrading later. The way I perceive it, high performance exotics have big round taillights. A cursory glance down memory lane brings up Ferraris, GT40's, Corvettes, etc. Opel Manta taillights are a bit harder to get, the HHR was designed as a retro and looks period. One of those issues I relented on was amber rear turn signals - American cars didn't. That's Euro (which I love, spent three years in Germany as a kid.) But in the production '67 year motif, no.

Goes to other accessories, you've seen the '60s Ford switches applied to the dash, etc. Readily available, matches the period look, does the job. I sold commercial hardware, making it all part of the same aesthetic and finish creates a continuity of look and sets a tone. "'67 Production" would play well parked next to some blinged out overdone "haute" rod at a show.

How many security flip switches do you really need to open the bomb bay doors, anyway?

Old guys could tell their grandkids how much fun it was when they owned one in the day. "Chevy made nice cars back then, sonny, too bad this one doesn't have the split rear window like mine did."
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With the headlamps with built in directional lights you'ld be hard pressed to see the light blinking at night with the glare of the headlamps! My solution was to install small LED beehive lights (Watson's Street Works - Item #L84A - Pg 16) as directional lights only in the grille cavity slightly recessed. Very bright night or day and hardly noticeable when not lit.

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In my testing, the integrated park/turn signals and park/turn front side markers were totally visible with the signals in action in the dark.

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Precisely. I haven't seen the factory turn signals working on a Coupe, but I can imagine what you did as being more visible than the little buttons buried in front of the headlamps. In the grille would be ok, too.

What the Daytona builders did was make it good enough for FIA rules. It seems to get by with most state DOT inspectors, but that doesn't make it the best or most optimized. Like building the motor, a lot of us don't accept 2bbl heads, stock cam timing, or cast iron exhaust, either.

If it's a road car for multi season use, then equip it with worst case scenario lighting, and then somebody aimed at you has no excuse. Driving on the street means distracted soccer moms, cell phone texters, and the aged or (enviro)mental poking along to save gas. Much less the bikers parading out of town with blockers on both lanes all the way to the city limits. We have an interesting mix in this "small town" metro.

I'm more than happy to light them up with 120 watts on high beam. Just doing what I can to help. I may add more. The Coupe will definitely get E-code lenses and headlight circuits requiring relays, it's been working quite well in the daily driver.

Did you know they make a 100 watt red fog light for the rear? Sounds like just the thing some foggy morning, or in a Dust Bowl storm. Ponca City News - <p>Dust Bowl 2012 Closes I-35 Thursday</p>

Loud lights save lives, too. Don't accept DOT "minimums", they are set by the Lighting Board - ie, light bulb makers. These are the same guys who wouldn't let you have halogens in the '80s until they were ready to invest the capital.

I ran Cibie Z beams in my '66 even then.
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