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Old 09-18-2012, 02:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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What's the best 16" cooling fan CFM wise?

Anyone know what the best 16" cooling fan is out there?

I have a ZIRGO, forgot how many CFM it is, but think it was a little over 3,000 CFM tared.

I can upgrade that fan , or squeeze an additional 6" fan

I don't believe this CFM rating, but this 6" from Perma-Cool is rated at 1,800 http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PRM-19127/?rtype=10

I'm hitting 225 degrees water temp and 200 Oil Temp in stop and go traffic. Everything cools off to 170 or less on the freeway, so it's clearly a CFM issue.



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Old 09-18-2012, 02:38 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Doesn't sound like a fan issue to me. More like the fan isn't sealed well against the radiator.
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Bill, I built a shroud a few years ago, it's pulling 100% from the surface of the radiator, not just the 'footprint' of the fan. After about 35-40 Miles per Hour, the temp starts to drop, and after 60 MPH, it drops quickly to 165-ish.

It's getting caught at stop lights that send the temps up, close to a degree every 2 seconds... hasn't gotten over 226 before, but I feel that is pretty hot.
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Hi,
You have something wrong with the thermostat if it will drop to 165*.
I would replace it with a high flow safegaurd 180* one. 165* is too cold for the oil,also the pistons won't expand to seal properly.
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Also 200 is a good oil temp. You need to burn the moisture out of the oil once in a while.
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Is 225 degree water temp considered too hot?
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220 is generally considered both optimal and close to max water temp in a street car. As others have said, 165 is too low. Things will not operate properly at that temp. Get a 180 or 190 thermostat in there ASAP. When the fans are correct, and the system is working properly, the water temp should fluctuate between about 180 and 220 with the fans coming on about 200 and then going off about 190. It should be able to sit there idling all day and go through that cycle over and over again.
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Lots of post on the taurus dual speed fan if you check back a ways.
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I installed the second fan today.

here's a pic of the shroud. I will be putting in a higher temp thermostat as soon as it comes in.

Can anyone identify the 16" fan? It might be time to upgrade that as well. It was built in 9/07... I'm assuming there are better fans now.
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I guess you dont understand that your temps are normal in the conditions you are experiencing them in.
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From your post in 2008, you seemed to indicate your were buying a Zirgo off ebay.

We had discussed fans at that time.

Radiator Shroud for COUPE....

My Coupe:

Outside temp 110 degrees with AC and stop and go traffic Coupe will run 225 to 230 ish.

Not enough radiator for motor and AC. Shut the AC off and will run 190 and cycle the fans all day long.

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Thanks, Turbo. I'm hoping that a new fan will catch up with Zirgo's claim of 3,600 CFM... which I highly doubt it a true number!
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Are you still using that damaged radiator with the bypassed tubes?
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yes, it's the same radiator, but the repair is to a very small area.
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If you let it idle with the hood closed, will it boil over? How hot does it get?

Is your instrument accurate?

I frequently see 220F standind still 0on a 110 degree day.
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