Scoop idea (just to be different)

[Matstng]

I'm thinking about putting this scoop on the Cobra. I'm not sure yet and will need to put it outside to get a better look at it but thought I'd post.
I like it's size but I'm not sure the squared edges go with the car.

[SeanHM]

I like it! I thought about something similar ( is that a Cobrajet scoop? ), but decided against it for the squareness like you mentioned. But seeing it in place, it's better than I expected. I think that looks better than the Super Snake scoop. Here's what I ended up with (97 SS Z-28 style)...

Hoodscoop.jpg picture by Front58 - Photobucket
And then on the car...
Hoodscoop.jpg picture by Front58 - Photobucket

Dare to be different!

[SeanHM]

That looks like it will be much easier to mount too. As you can see in the pics, I had to cut away quite a bit of material. Can't wait to see it finished

[MPTech]

SeanHM, I like your look better than Matstng (not trying to down your choice, but agree it's too squared off and doesn't flow on the Cobra hood). But I do like different and don't want to discourage you.

[SeanHM]

Thanks. Kind of done out of necessity. This one gives me more clearance and I've just always liked the style. Matstng's at least keeps it in the Ford family and I bet once it's blended in it'll look even better. Keep us updated.

[Matstng]

Originally Posted by SeanHM

I like it! I thought about something similar ( is that a Cobrajet scoop? ), Dare to be different!

Thanks Sean, This scoop is from a Bronco (not original). It was part of the deal when I bought this.


Started to think it may look alright on the Cobra and thought I'd take a look so I painted it black to blend a bit better.

[Cobra NJ]

One of the great things about these cars is that you can do whatever you want to with it. It's your car.

That said, you did ask a question so I'll give you my opinion.

Not good looking at all. To mount a hood scoop on your Roadster just because it showed up as part of the package with an old Bronco? Yikes.

Guys complain all the time about poor resale on these cars. Put that scoop on and you'll drop your resale by at least $3k, because it doesn't go well with the car. Worse, it would give your gorgeous Roadster that 'kit car' look that all the old kits used to have in the bad old days, pre-FFR, when all the bodies were "not quite right."

Not good, but again it's your car and maybe you don't care about resale or authenticity.

Good luck either way.

AJ

[Matstng]

Originally Posted by Cobra NJ

Put that scoop on and you'll drop your resale by at least $3k, because it doesn't go well with the car. Worse, it would give your gorgeous Roadster that 'kit car' look that all the old kits used to have in the bad old days, pre-FFR, when all the bodies were "not quite right."

Not good, but again it's your car and maybe you don't care about resale or authenticity.

Good luck either way.

AJ

You have a strong point AJ and eventhough I don't intend to sell it there is always the "what-if's"
I realize doing something different will affect the saleability. Something to think about.

[CraigS]

I agree w/ the squared corners don't fit w/ a cobra body which has no straight lines anywhere. If you want something different there is always that huge scoop that was on the two twin turbo cars. And I think there may be a half huge version as well.

[KEITH T.]

Originally Posted by Matstng

Thanks Sean, This scoop is from a Bronco (not original). It was part of the deal when I bought this.


Started to think it may look alright on the Cobra and thought I'd take a look so I painted it black to blend a bit better.

I say you just cut a hole in the hood for the blower to breath.

[Cone Basher]

SeanHM: I have an idea for you consideration. Turn the scoop around and take another look at it, doing this would smooth out the lines a bit and put the open end of the scoop at the base of the windshield which is a high pressure area for cars at speed. You could also cut the opening in the hood just large enough to allow the scoop to pass through and bond to the lips from the bottom side. I mounted the cowel, fender and rear defelector on my Coupe this way and it made a much nicer (non traditional) finished line. This would reduce the overall height of you hood scoop a bit which might smooth out the lines a bit more. I made a scoop for my Coupe to clear the carb and intake which is open on the back. It has the rounder look to it. You can see it if you look close at my avitar.
Just an idea:
HTH
CB

[knuclebuster]

I too have been looking to do something a little different with the scoop. I have attached a pic of a car with a different look. Im not sure but I think it is a Harwood scoop that has been cut down and bonded to the hood. One day I like it, the next I dont. Sometimes it looks a little large. Just thought I would share with you since you brought up the topic.

Todd

[Mark Reynolds]

How about putting the Cobra scoop on the Bronco?

[rich grsc]

Yuck!!!!!

[MPTech]

How about a SuperSnake scoop?

[2FAST4U]

Originally Posted by MPTech

How about a SuperSnake scoop?

Ditto that

[Stinson Pilot]

Mines a little different:

[Olli]

Mr Bruce has a nice 1/2 size Super Snake scoop....


Olli

[tirod]

Yes, you can do whatever.

Do you need a scoop? In this case, I think there's more motivation to have something different than a mechanical interference with the induction hitting the hood. Working with this as an aesthetic improvement, it then is a question, does it actually enhance the looks of the car?

Scoops are in and of themselves an acknowledgement that the user didn't have the induction planned out to work with the car. Scoops, from day one, are add-ons, an expedient compromise to getting more air into the engine, and usually because the intake and fuel metering were chosen without any compromises. Well, cars are all about compromises, we don't use titanium tubing or carbide engine blocks.

What the scoop says in styling terms is "This car has performance compromises that require add-ons to the bodywork, and I don't care that it sticks up out of the hood." Contrast that to the fact that the large majority of Cobra roadsters did NOT come from the factory with a scoop. Those that did were race chassis, or the S/C, which isn't the best recommendation. The S/C is the car the public would NOT buy, and it took two years to dump them on a reluctant market. Mature adults didn't see the S/C as a responsible car, it was a juvenile boy racermobile. Just look at it, it's got all those cliches, hood scoop, roll bar, outside exhaust, race wheels, nothing like what real adults drive.

Track cars might have scoops, kids put scoops on their daily driver, but what hood scoops usually mean in the auto art sense is "I've got hp and I'm big and tough." in a very exaggerated locker room measuring contest type of way.

How many MGB's, Spitfires, Tigers, Austin Healy's, etc have hood scoops? I mention them because they are all Brit sportscars from the same styling era. Scoops on them look ludicrous. They are cars with sporting purposes, designed with frugal refinement. So is the AC Bristol.

If there is one quick way to mark a car as a kit, it's going to be a hood scoop. And there are so many kits with scoops, putting one on isn't different at all, it's the same old same old. Show me a roadster without a scoop, roll bar, or outside exhaust. That's the different car - it's like most of the ones that did sell, a daily driver with reasonable compromises.

FWIW.

[ATOLightning]

Originally Posted by knuclebuster

I too have been looking to do something a little different with the scoop. I have attached a pic of a car with a different look. Im not sure but I think it is a Harwood scoop that has been cut down and bonded to the hood. One day I like it, the next I dont. Sometimes it looks a little large. Just thought I would share with you since you brought up the topic.

Todd

I really like this a lot....but then again, I'm not going for the "original look" or anything...nor am I worried about resale.

[QSL]

I like the side view, but not so much the front.

I wish i could find it, but i have seen some cobras with a thinner scoop that opens in the front and has small vents in the back. It fits the body style perfect in my opinion.

[elapidae]

I think your scoop looks good. Thats the great thing about these cars, you can do whatever you want.
Summit had a magazine ad awhile back that had the heading "It's a Celebration of Acceleration. The ad was done in black & White and had a picture of a cobra that had a non-traditional hood scoop. It may not be the traditional scoop, but it looks like it belongs there. If you have the 2011 shelby annual 50 years of cobra and shelby american, page 41 has that summit ad, wish I knew if that made that scoop. Thanks, Mark

[SeanHM]

Originally Posted by knuclebuster

I too have been looking to do something a little different with the scoop. I have attached a pic of a car with a different look. Im not sure but I think it is a Harwood scoop that has been cut down and bonded to the hood. One day I like it, the next I dont. Sometimes it looks a little large. Just thought I would share with you since you brought up the topic.

Todd

Todd, do you have any more pics of that car or a link? That is HOT! The wheels, the color, the scoop. Love it. I looked at something like that too. Basically the upper portion of a Harwood scoop. I appreciate the original cars for what they are and that is why I fell in love with these cars when I was 6, but I also like to tweak and I like the idea of the modern interpretation.

CB, thanks for the idea, but what you see is it. Too far down the road to turn back or backwards. Also you can't see from the pics, but the back edge of this scoop is open like a cowl induction, so it wouldn't be that simple. Plus I love it. I think it flows great with the lines and that's what it's about. When she said "Who are you going to please with that little thing?", he said "ME!".

Matstng, I knew it was a Ford piece. Go for it.

Tirod, are you sure you're on the right forum?

[rick8928]

Given that the air filter on my mod motor is down near the right front of the hood, didn't need a scoop for induction. Rather, made a square hole in the hood under the scoop, placed a block plate before the hole, and vented the rear of the scoop to allow hot air to escape out from under the hood. Used stainless button headed allen bolts and gutter screen (which exactly matches the pattern on the cobra earl air vents in the brake ducts).

[knuclebuster]

Sean,
Here is the link your looking for. I found this car searching for "kobalt blue" to see if I could find a picture of a roadster that had been painted with the House of Kolor KB. This is very interesting build. Some of the older members may remember this car and the build. I could only find the link to the pictures, no other information. I would love to find out more about the scoop, which really interested me. If you really study the pictures, you may see different angles that give the appearance that the scoop sets up pretty high on the hood. It is very difficult to tell because of the white stripes. I am seriously considering going this direction, but have not purchased the Harwood scoop. In fact, im only guessing that it is a harwood that has been cut down. I have not been able to find any other scoops that have this appearance. By the way, when you look at this guys engine, he needed the extra height that the scoop gave him, so it is serving some purpose. Let me know if you have any additional thoughts on this scoop.

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Todd

[MPTech]

Agreed Todd.
This scoop flows better with the curve of the hood.

[SeanHM]

Originally Posted by knuclebuster

Sean,
Here is the link your looking for. I found this car searching for "kobalt blue" to see if I could find a picture of a roadster that had been painted with the House of Kolor KB. This is very interesting build. Some of the older members may remember this car and the build. I could only find the link to the pictures, no other information. I would love to find out more about the scoop, which really interested me. If you really study the pictures, you may see different angles that give the appearance that the scoop sets up pretty high on the hood. It is very difficult to tell because of the white stripes. I am seriously considering going this direction, but have not purchased the Harwood scoop. In fact, im only guessing that it is a harwood that has been cut down. I have not been able to find any other scoops that have this appearance. By the way, when you look at this guys engine, he needed the extra height that the scoop gave him, so it is serving some purpose. Let me know if you have any additional thoughts on this scoop.

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Todd

Thanks Todd. That ia an outstanding build. Makes me wish I had kept my Procharger. I also needed some clearance (not that much) that my scoop helps with. The hood would hit the TB and not sit down before. An unexpected neat bonus is that now the fuel pressure gauge peaks out the opening.

[EdwardR]

Very nice guys,,, looks like a contemporary version of the ss hood pictured

[chmasy]

Hmmm, Thats a big No

[EdwardR]

Funny,, that's what Bill Cosby said to Carol when he tried to deliver his super snake :-0