I have seen some photos on here of other MK IV builds that are nearing completion and they have the seat belt bezels on them to help dress up the holes on the rear cockpit bulkhead. The bezels don't seem to conflict with the body.
However, on mine it seems like they would. Is my body sitting too low? Does this look out of place? The driver's side looks worse, but the rolled edge is not symmetrical which is largely cause the two sides to look much different.
I can't move the body left or right due to the shape of the rear bulkhead and how it fits with the body. The body sits down and seals with the rubber lining well all the way around the back and throughout the trunk.
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I would have guessed that the seal wasn't in yet but that doesn't seem to be the issue if it is installed. I have the body on mine without the seals. I'll let you know what clearance I have when I get home tonight.
Rich, I have the seal installed on all the aluminum in the rear of the car including both trunk sides and the rear bulkhead piece which you see in the photo here. The body sits great on it and there are no gaps anywhere.
Are you saying there should be no seal, and that I should adjust the holes in the body at the mounting bolts to raise it? This would give me gaps between the bulb seal and body, no?
Just trying to clarify your post, I appreciate the input.
More1Putts (I wish I had more 1 putts haha), please let me know what you find out.
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I don't want to speak for Rich, but I think the rear bulkhead is not supposed to have any seal on it. Are your body bolts in place or is the body still loose and just sitting on the rest of the bulb seal? If just at rest, then it could be that it's compressing the bulb seal and sitting a bit lower. If bolted in place, you may want to try mounting the belts and bezels to confirm clearance concern, if you haven't done so already.
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I don't want to speak for Rich, but I think the rear bulkhead is not supposed to have any seal on it. Are your body bolts in place or is the body still loose and just sitting on the rest of the bulb seal? If just at rest, then it could be that it's compressing the bulb seal and sitting a bit lower. If bolted in place, you may want to try mounting the belts and bezels to confirm clearance concern, if you haven't done so already.
The body bolts are in place. I won't have any issue with the belt clearance as the only part of the holes covered up is the driver's side top corner. The bezels would definitely hit the body on the driver's side, however I am not sure of the passenger side. The bulb seal is quite compressed all the way around, I just thought that's what its supposed to do, so maybe it could be raised slightly...not sure it would solve the clearance. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by AR-cobra
I assume it is going to be covered with carpet, could you just "fudge" the holes over a bit?
Well moving the holes closer to the center of the car would make the belts even further from center of the seats. Not sure if I want to do that. I may just not be able to use the bezels. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by COMPETITIONCOBRA
I've got the exact problem with my MK3. No problem other than a non symmetrical body and or chassis.
I'm starting to think this is the case. Unless you know that it's like this, you wouldn't notice it at all...would you?
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Kit Delivered & Build Started: 11-6-10 First Start: 5-26-12
No bulb seal across the upper part of the rear bulkhead.
Instead of accentuating the close proximity of the slots with trim rings I just slit the carpet and pass the belts through. That way it just kind of disappears.
I have that problem on my mk4 and bezels. Same exact deal. I am thinking of just moving the bezel over a small bit. The holes are bigger then the belts so there is a small amount of adjustment there.
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It could also mess with the body fitment. Jeff miller told me he had a car there one time that was not behaving and he was having issues with lining up stuff. Turned out that someone had installed the bulb seal over the back and it was enough to mess with alignment.
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It could also mess with the body fitment. Jeff miller told me he had a car there one time that was not behaving and he was having issues with lining up stuff. Turned out that someone had installed the bulb seal over the back and it was enough to mess with alignment.
Oh boy, I could have used this thread a couple of weeks ago. It's all together now with bulb seal across the rear bulkhead but man what a pain to line up the doors. Oh well, live and learn.
Cheers
Bill
i would have ignored the directions and put it there myself too if I was not told by Jeff ahead of time not to do so. So dont blame yourself. Its not like that page is 100% clear either.
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347 w. stack injection, IRS, Levy arms, Levy front and rear brakes
More1Putts (I wish I had more 1 putts haha), please let me know what you find out.
Mine looks to be about the same clearance maybe a little worse (again no seals at all). I'll have to make a note about the bulb seal when I get to that point in my build.
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Type 65 Coupe Ordered 01/17/13
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347 w. stack injection, IRS, Levy arms, Levy front and rear brakes
What if you brought both through the single hole centered in the middle of the seat. Probably what I would try. Didn't they use to come that way back in early Marks?
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On the earlier cars, MK I,II,III, the top of the rear bulkhead was actually a body mounting location so you couldn't have bulb seal there. You were suppose to connect the body there with three 1/8" rivits. Not many people did though. On the MK IV it has a rolled edge there now so I would expect that just the carpeting folded over the top would complete the installation. The bulb seal may raise the body too high causing other alignment issues.
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