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Old 06-17-2011, 01:49 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Old 06-28-2011, 04:16 AM   #62 (permalink)
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Coolant tank installed. Upper coolant hose installed.







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Old 06-28-2011, 04:21 AM   #63 (permalink)
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Lower hose fit. Single hose solution. Just need to get it wrapped with stainless braid.









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Otis, your braided coolant hose looks great! What kit / part numbers did you use and how hard was that to install?
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Here is the upper hose 1 3/4" on the surge tank side and 1 1/2" on the radiator side.

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The clamps are 2" on the radiator side and 2 1/4" on the coolant tank side. The surge tank fitting was not large enough and needed to be slotted to fit.

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Old 07-03-2011, 01:05 AM   #66 (permalink)
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Tackling the wiring. Why in the world did they wrap all the wires together with electrical tape, masking tape, zip ties, and conduit? Mating the Ron Francis harness to the EFI computer, fan and fuel controllers, and mechanical gauges super fun. It's not that hard, but when you're color blind it's twice the effort. I have to trace every wire since I don't trust myself. I thought the wire labels were thru the length of the wire. I was wrong. They are only labeled at the ends where there is a connector. If I were doing this again it would be ISIS and my own harnesses. Half the effort instead of spending so much time tracing every wire. I also hate all the combined ground wires. My EFI controller uses a negative control for the fan and fuel pumps.

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Old 07-12-2011, 02:12 AM   #67 (permalink)
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Hey, I also watched video #8, what was happening there?

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Old 07-12-2011, 03:16 AM   #69 (permalink)
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I had the fuel pump wired to crank only and not to run. Would start and immediately die. Once I figured out the missing wire it fired right up..

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First start.

Sounds great. Congrat's Rob.
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New pics of the lower radiator hose.

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Sorry for the absence been quietly working, but few posts to prove it. Just a small update. Wiring has advanced substantially. It was my most hated part of the build. Almost done now. With the help of a friend that's behind me now. Behind the dash is pretty busy, but all gauges and lights work. Motor out and back in. Gold reflective insulation placed inside the foot boxes to help keep the header heat down. Still trying to stop the last coolant and power steering line leaks.

Interior and trunk has been insulated with second skin insulation. Car is going out for professional alignment and interior carpet treatment with nicer piping than I could ever do this week.

Next the body will be back on for final fitting. Then off to painter for final primer coats and then PAINT!! It's getting close now! Once it's warm it should be ready!

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Looking good Otis, looking good.

I was going to be where you are about now but other stuff got in the way.

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Looking good Otis, looking good.

I was going to be where you are about now but other stuff got in the way.

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Rob - who's doing the alignment and carpet?
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Did you paint the webers yourself? What process did you use? I had actually thought of doing the exact same on mine. I have the same engine too.
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Old 05-27-2012, 03:14 AM   #77 (permalink)
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Getting close to paint. Hope to have it painted by this upcoming weekend.

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Paint. It's finally done! Ready for assembly.

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What?! That isn't blue/white stripes.

Looks neat. What does it mean?
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Sorry it's long, but here's the whole story.

The Terlingua logo is black and yellow, with a rabbit holding its paw in the air. How it came together is quite a story. The whole thing actually got started when a group including Carroll Shelby, Dave Witts, Tom Tierney, David E Davis, Jr. and myself (Bill Neale) would go down to Terlingua to hang out, hunt deer, ride motorcycles, have some drinks and eat real well. Usually these trips would last anywhere from four to five days. We would get down there in many different ways, but most of the time we flew down on Shelby’s DC-3 which he would bring to Dallas from Los Angeles. We did this two or three times a year.

After purchasing the more than 200,000 acres that made up the Terlingua Ranch, and while trying to decide what to do with the land, Shelby and Witts decided to do something to benefit the Terlingua community by developing a technical school for young men. Brewster County is a very sparsely populated area, and these young folks couldn’t afford to travel the nearly 100 miles to the nearest schools. There were literally more goats living in and around Terlingua than people. The boy’s technical school effort got off to a good start, but later fell apart for many reasons, most of them political.

While we were working on the school idea, Tom Tierney came to me and said “Bill, wouldn’t it be nice if you designed a Terlingua Ranch logo?” Tierney was a public relations man who worked with Ford Motor Company. We met early one morning for breakfast at the Rafter’s Club on Northwest Highway in Dallas. The first logo was drawn on a paper napkin, and we chose the colors, which were to be yellow and black. Tom is the man responsible for really promoting the first Terlingua chili cook off in 1967. At that time, the logo consisted only of the rabbit, the sun and the three feathers.

At first, I thought about a buzzard…
The Terlingua Ranch logo has this rabbit which looks like what you would see on a European coat of arms. Originally I sketched some ideas using various other critters that lived in the area around Terlingua and the Rio Grande River. Among the other critters that I tried on the first design was a buzzard, which was pretty neat. But then I thought, the jackrabbit is really more of a Texas critter…and the design just naturally developed. His ears have a classic look and he has fur up around his neck. Many people wonder why he’s holding up his right foot, but the reason is simple. He’s saying, “No more peppers in my chili please!!!”

The three feathers underneath the rabbit represent the three Indian tribes that populated the area prior to the days when cinnabar ore was mined to produce mercury. The three Indian tribes were the Kiowa, Apache, and Comanche. The tribes gathered in an area around the only source of water, now called Terlingua Creek, and while living together they developed one language. The name of the region comes from these three languages or “Tres Lingues”, later adapted as “Terlingua”.

Also on the logo is the sun, which I included primarily because it is so bloomin’ hot down there! Midday temperatures of 110º-115º are typical. I picked the color yellow because it just seemed appropriate for that area. Most areas down there are either bright earth colors or brown. In the upper left hand corner there is the date 1860. In the mid 1800′s, mercury or “quicksilver” mining made Terlingua a boom town. 1860 was the date of the first race ever held in the Terlingua area. That first race was between two mercury (ore) wagons pulled by 6 mules each and it was held on the road which is now the center of Terlingua. When I told that to Shelby he said, “Neale, that’s a hell of a story. Where did you find it? What book was it in?” And I said, “Shelby, I didn’t read that in a book. I made it up!”

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Bill Neale affixes the Terlingua Racing Team decal to the very first Shelby GT350R race car at Green Valley Raceway near Dallas, Texas, February 14, 1965.
After the Terlingua Ranch logo was created in the mid-1960’s, Shelby said, “You know, it would be kinda neat to use this as a racing team logo too! If you will figure out how to do it, we’ll use it on some of the GT350-R models I’m developing.” Shelby brought the first car to Green Valley Raceway near Dallas on February 14, 1965. Ken Miles drove the car, designated 5R002. It was white with blue stripes and the first “R” model Shelby Mustang ever to race. I said, “Shelby why don’t we put our first Terlingua logo on there?” The logo by now had “Terlingua Racing Team” on it and he said “let’s do it!” That car won the race that day and has been documented in a lot of magazines, various books and so on. At right is a picture of me putting the Terlingua Racing Team logo on 5R002 on race day.

The Terlingua Racing Team logo was later used on the 1967 Jerry Titus car, which raced in the Trans-Am series. This is one of the original cars Shelby asked me (Bill Neale) to design graphics for. He said, “Let’s use a color that will make it different and show up real well on the Trans-Am grid.” I immediately thought of the Terlingua yellow and black. My original design had a yellow hood with a black stripe down the middle rather than the total black hood he actually put on the car. (Supposedly the drivers complained about the glare from the yellow hood.) It made the Terlingua Racing Team one of the more popular logos of the day.

Hey, What Are You Sticking On My Car???
Now many people have asked, “How did you manage to get all that publicity for such a mark?” It is really fun to see all the various places where the Terlingua Racing Team logo has appeared. We have seen cars at Le Mans with the logo and we have no idea how they got the decal. The logo has also been on some cars Shelby campaigned in Europe…some of which were sponsored by Ford Motor Company, so we had to be very careful where we put those logos. The Terlingua Racing Team logo has also appeared on airplanes, boats, and someone even sent a picture of a camel in India with the logo on the chair where riders sit. Once I walked in to a men’s restroom in Geneva, Switzerland, and the gentleman that hands you the towel had a little desk there. On a bulletin board above his desk, there was a Terlingua Racing Team logo!

Of all the fun we had putting it on various things, none can hold a candle to the time Shelby and I were walking down the starting grid prior to the 1966 Indy 500. When no one was looking, we very carefully applied Terlingua Racing Team decals wherever we could on the race cars, mixed in among the decals representing companies that had spent a lot of money for that privilege. We thought we had made it to the end of the line, putting at least one of TRT decals on each car and felt kind of smug and proud of ourselves. But as we were heading to our seats we realized we had missed one car, and of course, that was the car that won the race! You know, that little logo has really created a lot of good times, and a lot of fun, for a lot of people.

Chili*Heads, Hollywood Stars, Race Car Drivers, Monks and Politicians
Shortly after the TRT logo was created, the first chili cook*off was held in 1967 and TRT logo was used extensively there. That event also lead to the development of “official” positions in the fictitious Terlingua City Council, or as it was commonly known, the “Terlingua Municipal Board”. We came up with lots of positions and titles that involved some really famous people from that time.

The Terlingua Municipal Board initially started with David Witts, Carroll Shelby, Wick Fowler and me (Bill Neale). Wick Fowler had created a chili mix called “Two Alarm Chili” still available in stores today.

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WOW!!! That looks amazing! I cant wait to see it all together with those billboards.
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Actually the paint job was inspired by a model I found at Tousley Ford. I walked in the parts department to get two gallons of coolant for the Ford GT that ended up inside the engine compartment. That's another story... While I was waiting I saw the model behind some parts and asked if it was for sale. It was covered in 20 years of dust, but they even found the original box? They sold it for $10 and it was mine. After some clean up I became very fond of the paint scheme and changed my mind.

Another big factor is how long I've been waiting for my paint job to get done. My car has been at the painters shop since Xmas and I've been patiently waiting. After 7 months you have a tendency to change your mind a time or twelve. My only request from the body guy was to have the car done by Memorial Day and it's looking like the 4th of July instead. The end is near!

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Cool.

I still have no idea what my color/scheme will be.

BTW - did you pre-fit the windshield? Your 'slits' look like she might be a little tight.
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Getting there!

How'd the carpet come out?
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How'd the carpet come out?
Was there last Sat and Sunday all day working. We had the carpet cutout and it was brought to the interior person on Monday who did all the piping. I have not seen it glued in place. It went in today. Pics didn't turn out well enough to see the detail. On vacation this week and coming home on Sunday to pick up the car. I hope he has it done ?

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Fingers crossed for you.

Can't wait to see it!
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Few more crappy cell phone pics of the reassembly process.

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