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Old 04-07-2013, 06:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Wheels & Tires - Fitment Query…

Wondering about this combination on a fenderless '33…

American Muscle Solid Black Bullitt wheels

17" x 8" fronts w/5.72" backspacing & +30mm offset
18" x 10" rears w/7.2" backspacing & +45mm offset

Mickey Thompson Performance Tires

Street Comp front tires - 235/35/17
ET Street Radial II rear tires - 305/35/18

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Old 04-07-2013, 03:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I prefer Nitto NT555R on the back if you plan to drive it on the street much. The M/T drag radial are the best drag radials at the strip, but they are the scariest if you get caught in the rain, while the Nittos are the most streetable of the drag radials. I run the Nittos on my Terminator for example.

By the way, I don't think any of these drag radials compare to a bias ply slick or street slick like the M/T ET Street bias ply at the strip if you have a stick car.

Your backspacing looks about right for the front. It's harder to tell for the back without knowing about your rear end setup.

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Old 04-07-2013, 05:19 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I prefer Nitto NT555R on the back if you plan to drive it on the street much. The M/T drag radial are the best drag radials at the strip, but they are the scariest if you get caught in the rain, while the Nittos are the most streetable of the drag radials. I run the Nittos on my Terminator for example.

By the way, I don't think any of these drag radials compare to a bias ply slick or street slick like the M/T ET Street bias ply at the strip if you have a stick car.

Your backspacing looks about right for the front. It's harder to tell for the back without knowing about your rear end setup.

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Rear end would be the 'stock' 8.8" Moser / 3-link setup sourced from Factory Five.

Also wondering about the whole 'stance' aspect of 18"s front & rear, as opposed to the 17" & 18" rear which allows the rear to be 'jacked up' some…

If it would not mess with the 'look/stance' too much, I would prefer to go with 18"s front & rear, as the same rim is available in a Matte Black, but in 18"s only…

And while doing a search in the '33 Hot Rod forum here (simply 'tires'…), I run across the thread about how the sizing/spacing/recommended tires in the video on the FF site & the specs outlined in the build manual conflict with each other…

Would be nice to have a SOLID set of parameters to go with when hunting for the perfect wheels & tires, as restock fees can eat one up…

I will keep the NITTOs in mind as I continue 'shopping'…
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Those wheels from American Muscle are made for the 05 up brakes and rotors. If they fit like the factory wheels you could have problems. The front brakes supplied with the kit do not clear those wheels. I have 2 sets of wheels for the 05 up, the 17x8 5 spoke (base GT) and the 18x8 (California Special Style) polished 5 spoke. Neither one will fit with out running spacers. I made spacers for the 18's and they looked great then got to the point to install the headlights and the backspacing was too much and the tires hit the headlights. I am now using a set of 99 cobra 17x9 inch wheels, no spacers and clears the headlights. Sorry I don't have the backspacing measurements, but just a heads up.
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:05 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Dayton Wire Wheels knockoffs & vintage-style tires…

Okay, shifting gears here…

Been looking at LOTS of pics of classic hot rods on the Interwebz, and now I am REALLY digging the wire wheels/vintage rubber look; the knockoff aspect just ups the cool quotient…

So, wondering what sizes folks might have run in wire rims & vintage rubber? Would like to still have a staggered front to rear, and would like to still go as wide as possible.

I know Dayton will make whatever size/backspace/offset one wants, you just got to throw money at them, but have not had much luck finding wide vintage/classic tires on the web (aside from huge rear drags)…

Anyone have any info on this? Thanks in advance…!
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Vintage looks on the cheap…

Or maybe some simple steelies is the way to go, cheaper than Daytons (by far) and still that vintage hot rod look…

On the rubber side of things, to whitewall or not? If you go whitewall, you might as well go fat, right!?!

Thinking about the rubber from a basic daily driver perspective at this point, not really thinking about drag or track needs, so vintage tires seems like it should be alright…
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Old 04-09-2013, 08:51 PM   #7 (permalink)
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vintage wheels and tires

I ended up having some steel wheels made for #007. I used a company in Milwaukee who builds wheels for RoundyRound racers, etc. Here's their web address:
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There's a modest selection of styles and you pick the rim width you want and they'll put the center disk in for whatever offset or backspace you request. Just make sure everyone's speaking the same "language" relative to offset.

For tires, I got my whitewalls made for me out of BFG G-Force Sport tires by these guys:
Diamond Back Classic Radial Tires



Excellent quality work on the white walls. They also have a nice assortment of true "vintage" tire profiles with which to work. Here's a photo page of other cars with their tires: http://www.dbtires.com/gallery_pre48.html

I chose the "look" of whitewalls even though the profile of the tires is still quite aggressive compared to true 'vintage' profile. My front and rear tires are "staggered" in size, but not in wheel size. Both front and rears are 16" rims, but tire width is different front/rear. Since the sidewall height is different Front/Rear, the whitewalls on the front are narrrower than on the rears. That adds to the "staggered" appearance.

I chose 16" rims over 15" because there was a far greater selection of tire brands and sizes from which too choose.

It'll be nice to have someone else with white walls around!

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("fastest guy with White Walls" award, Northwoods Shelby Club) (of course I was the ONLY guy with White Walls!)
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Wondering about this combination on a fenderless '33…

American Muscle Solid Black Bullitt wheels

17" x 8" fronts w/5.72" backspacing & +30mm offset
18" x 10" rears w/7.2" backspacing & +45mm offset

Mickey Thompson Performance Tires

Street Comp front tires - 235/35/17
ET Street Radial II rear tires - 305/35/18
If you have the 59.25" wide rear end, i'd be concerned about the rear back space. I have a set of ford racing rims just for moving he car around. They have a 5.98" backspace and they come withing an inch of the body.. the 7.2 back space rim would almost certainly rub without a spacer... and i'm not even counting the tire buldge yet which in your case is about another inch.
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Gah…!!! Why are wheels & tires SO frakkin' difficult to get 'right'…!?!

Okay, so Tom Veale gave a link for a source for custom steelies, which is cool; I think I could go that route for initial wheels, and also check his other link for having modern tires made into whitewalls (clever, why did I not think of that as an option?).

Then I will 'steel' be able to roll in style, whilst I save the cash for a sweet set of Dayton Wire Wheels.

At THAT point, I can mount white-walled street tires on the Daytons, and strip/track tires on the steelies…!
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Icon15 Fast White Walls.............

Yep, having modern tire structure and compound is a great feature and getting the different side wall treatment just lets us go a little further "over the top."



Did you note you can get "red lines" and other such things as well.

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