Bill of Rights 1.8 - rev. 1/2007
Here are some basic policies for the FFCars forums. Please try and
maintain these guidelines to ensure a smooth running forum without
bantering and ill feelings. If you ever feel someone is not abiding
by these rules, please contact us and we will review
the topic and either ask the person to edit the statements or we may
delete the comments that are out of line. We may delete,
modify, or close any topic we feel that is not following our
guidelines or if the topic just rubs us the wrong way. We
don't like to ban people from our site, but if you post something
that upsets the balance we may ban you without warning.
Vendor Relations and Experiences
POLICY: Please try and resolve product problems with vendors before
"venting" on the site. Venting may sound harmless, but can create
ill feelings to parties that are involved. Only the parties DIRECTLY
involved in a vendor/customer interaction are welcome to post about
the experience. Fellow members with useful suggestions based on
solid facts, remedies, and solutions, rather than personal opinions
and personal attitudes, may respond.
COMMENT: There is value in sharing experiences where the sharing
brings a swift end to a real problem someone else is having. What is
oh-so hateful and destroying in forums is when people with hate in
their hearts and foul agenda's reply and it becomes useless gossip
and innuendo, then it becomes childishness. I don't think it has to
be too cumbersome to police. I think we are a mature group of people
who want to keep our little serene (usually) post-haven a fun place
Respect Your Fellow Members
POLICY: Do not belittle, disparage, ridicule, or make fun of a
fellow member. This includes name-calling, questioning people’s
integrity/knowledge in a disparaging way, or openly trashing
someone’s reputation online. Do not take things personal and
don't cause trouble.
COMMENT: The Internet is a funny place. It’s easy for people to
think that they’re a 7’ tall, 300 pounds Kick-boxer while online.
Just try and post comments that you wouldn’t mind saying to someone
in person. We will be having events in the future and you may one
day have to face that person, so be careful what you say. You don’t
want to be watching your back at Roadster events, do you? If you
like to post comments just to "stir things up" you are posting on
the wrong site. We don't tolerate trouble makers or people who want
to post radical comments.
Treat New Members With Kid Gloves
POLICY: All new members will be treated with an equal amount of
respect as long standing members. We will not forget that we were
they once. Allow them to post questions and answer the question even
if it has been asked and answered 100 times somewhere else or can be
found on the FFR FAQ pages. If you feel so strongly about directing
people to search old topics instead of answering the question, just
kindly tell them the answer and say, "you can also find that
information by performing a search or by looking at the FFR FAQ."
COMMENT: We love new members because they aspire to own a car like
the one we’ve already built or are currently building. These people
just want to hang out and pick our brains. If we could exchange beer
here, they would even buy us a beer and sit and listen for hours
about what we have to say. This is a good thing; let’s encourage
questions and comments, no matter how ridiculous or insignificant it
Religion, Race and Politics
POLICY: This site is dedicated to Factory Five kit cars, not
religion, race or politics. We don't mind off topic posts from
time-to-time, but please refrain from discussing religious beliefs,
political views or race. This is not the place.
COMMENT: It's way too easy to hurt someone's feelings when
discussing life issues such as religion, political views, and/or the
color of someone's skin or ethic background. The reason this site
works is because we talk about cars and events, without discussing
topics such as these. Let's refrain from these topics to avoid
hurting one of our fellow friends. We are diverse culture and this
forum should reflect that. We are all brothers of the Roadster and
that's what should matter the most.
Using The Forum to Sell Products/Services (Commercial Posting)
Supporting vendors pay for the
considerable bandwidth charges on the Forum, making it FREE for the
members. In exchange, they get the privilege of using the
Forum to market and promote their goods and services.
Vendors (paid advertisers) are
inform members of their products and services.
Only Supporting Vendors can post
We do not allow non-supporting
vendors or persons to post about their products, services, group
purchases, charities, clubs, etc. Non-paying vendors are not allowed to host group
purchases on our site.
Forum members are
welcome to use the Classifieds to sell a parts purchased for their
own personal use. Anything else is considered to be a commercial
sale. No links or reference to eBay sales, please. If the
sale is appropriate for the Forum, post it on the Forum, rather than
linking to it elsewhere.
We don't allow people to post
anything related to charity, raffles, asking for donations, etc.
without the written permission of the administrators. If you
post anything related to a raffle, charity, etc. you can be banned
To be fair to all
businesses, we require an ad to be purchased before trying to do
business on the site. It would not be fair to allow an
individual or business the opportunity to sell products to our
members for free, when we have vendors who are trying to make a
living supporting this industry and is showing their support by
purchasing a banner ad. Our ads are far below the Internet
average. We charge less that a penny for every ten ads that appear,
or $1.30 per 1,000 (CPM). The industry average is over $16 per CPM.
So if a business is legitimate, it should be able to afford an ad.
Lately we have had a lot of people
just selling parts on our site. These members don't participate in
the forum discussions and add no valve to the site. They need
to use eBay or pay for a banner ad on our site. Our prices are much
cheaper than eBay and we don't charge for each sale or each listing.
Don't abuse the free classifieds and ruin it for the participating
Just about every week, we get
people asking us to allow them to post about their charity, raffle,
events, etc. It's hard to say what charity is real and which
is not, so we don't allow any of these types of posts.
if you have a real charity that needs to be promoted, contact the
administrators and ask for permission to promote your charity. In
general, the answer will always be no. There will be
exceptions when the request comes from a long-time member who
contributes on a regular basis. But only if they can provide
proof that the charity is real.
names, signatures and avatars need to be kid friendly. Do not use your
business name or website address for your screen name unless you are
a Supporting Vendor. Do not link to outside websites in your
signature unless you are a supporting vendor or are posting a link
to your build site. Any link to a commercial business,
charity, non-profits, etc is against the rules.
have many young people visiting our site and many members use our
site while at work. We don't want to cause any problems for the
users, so please consider this when choosing a screen name and
avatar. Using a business name or your web site address in a screen
name is another way of "selling" on the forum. It's OK if you
are a supporting vendor, otherwise it's against the forum rules.
Directing People to Other Web Sites
POLICY: Please do not try and
direct people to commercial sites. This is commonly called "SPAM".
If you do this, you will be banned from the site without warning and
won't be allowed back. If you own a competing site or think it
might be viewed as a competing site, do not post a link to your site
or post a link in your signature without asking for permission.
If you do this without our permission, you will be banned from our
site without warning.
Do not link to build sites with
Wiki's, FFR Wiki's or FFR related forums. We consider these sites as
competition and we therefore not allowed. This will get you
instantly banned from the forum.
COMMENT: We hate spammers and
will do all we can to delete your post and track you down. Please
respect our site and stay away. If you have a competing site,
an Internet business, or an automotive related site we should not
have to explain this rule any further.
Off Topic Posts
POLICY: We do not want off topic posts unless it is a benefit to the
group. Don't post anything that would offend someone. This
site is not here to solve the problems of the world. We are
here to have fun and go away with a smile. If you think your
post might upset someone, then DO NOT POST it.
COMMENT: Too many people
get upset when they read something and they disagree with it. This
causes heated arguments over the Internet and it never solves
anything except causing hard feelings and allows somebody to spend
hours writing something so they can "make their point".
More About Off Topic Posts: Try to keep Off Topic posts that relate to Roadsters, sports cars,
or light hearted topics. Sometimes you may post something about a
fellow member. Such as new babies, deaths, personal hardships,
personal accomplishments and supporting vendor promos.
COMMENT: Off topic posts tend to be the thing that brings down a
well ran forum. Our site is successful because we don't get too
personal. We keep it light and "on topic" 99% of the time. Off topic
posts also tend to bring in people without Roadster replicas to give
their 2 cents. And sometimes these people get too emotional and
personal. Maybe if they had a car to build they would have less time
to post negative comments? Anyway, if we keep it on topic most of
the time, we won't have these issues.
Photo & Video Sharing
POLICY: Posting photos and videos is acceptable if it is related to helping
someone build a Roadster or upgrade a car. Do not post off topic
photos or videos, please link them. Many users are on dial up, so be mindful of using
photos because it makes the pages load slow. No nudity. Please
refrain from posting girls with cars, unless it's a Roadster. And then,
please warn people in your post and link the photo. Please do
not post something that a mother would not want her 10 year old son
COMMENT: This policy is in affect to keep the site loading fast and
to not offend users. Our site is here to help others build Roadster
replicas. All it takes in one girly picture to turn someone off and
they leave the site. We don't need to run someone off just because
of a photo. If you think you have a questionable photo to share, ask
a moderator for direction. Remember, there are many young kids
watching our site and dreaming of owning a Roadster one day; so let's
keep it clean.
How to Complain
POLICY: Complaints about the forum or a member of the
Before posting a negative comment about our site or a member, please
give us some respect and first try emailing the moderators or owners
of FFCars about your problem or concern. If you then feel you still
need to vent, please include a possible solution to your concern.
This includes posting general complaints about other members.
COMMENTS: Negative comments do nothing but fuel the fire for bad
relationships. This site was created to help others build Factory
Five cars. That’s it, nothing more. If we can help you build your
dream car, then we have succeeded. We’re not here to entertain you,
argue with you, debate world topics, or help you with other things
going on in your life. We are a car site and more specifically, a
site dedicated to Roadster replicas. Please try and stay the course.
POLICY: Please do
not post topics that are related to street racing, exhibitions of
speed or reckless driving on the street or "kill stories".
This includes linking to street racing discussions, street racing
videos, street racing stories, etc. FFCars.com does not condone
racing is stupid and can be deadly. We have many young people coming
to our site and we don't want to encourage them to street race. Do
not post anything related to street racing. If you do, the thread
may be deleted or locked and you are subject to being immediately
banned without a warning.
Relax and Have
POLICY: This is a
site dedicated to helping people build cars. It's not a place to
cause trouble or stir up an argument.
COMMENTS: The down
fall of many automotive related sites come from members who don't
respect the rules set by the forum. We have some simple rules and we
do enforce them. Don't get mad if we put you in your place.
Don't take it personal, we are just trying to keep the site check.
Take a deep breath and relax. Come back with a better attitude and
enjoy the benefits of the site.
Spamming Our Members
POLICY: Anyone posting spam to
our site will be banned. Please help control our sites integrity by
using the "Report Topic" button and alerting the moderators.
COMMENTS: We ban spammers and
their IP addresses. This can cause trouble for other people
logging on, so if you have a log-in problem because your IP has been
added to the banned list, please contact the admin and we'll correct
Classifieds Access for New Members
POLICY: Access to the classifieds section on FFcars.com is granted through participation on the site. When you reach 10 posts the classifieds sections will appear for your account and you will be able to reply to threads. When you reach 20 posts on the site you will be able to start your own threads in the classifieds. Premium and Vendor memberships are immune to this rule and can read and post in the classifieds regardless of post count.
COMMENT: This policy is in effect on the site to try to keep fraud and fly-by-night Craigslist'er type classifieds ads off the site. It is not difficult to reach 10 posts on the site just asking a few questions. The database updates the use promotions about every three hours. If you just hit your 20 posts and it does not allow you to post please be patient, maybe stroll through the galleries a little the database will update just check back in an hour or two.
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